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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby Loki » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 16:56:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'I') do need to hire a(n) historian to document my life in a very factitious manner so that I can have a better shot when I run for the presidency in 2016. How much do you charge?

For you I'll do it for $1,000/hr, to be paid in gold or silver, or possibly barrels of oil. But we better start soon, as apparently I'll be starving to death soon. :razz:
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 18:21:27

I have about 200 barrels of oil buried in my back yard, will this suffice. Also would you be interested in trading your services for wenches?
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby Loki » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 20:13:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'I') have about 200 barrels of oil buried in my back yard, will this suffice. Also would you be interested in trading your services for wenches?

Absolutely, wenches will also work, but only if hot. I'll also take the oil, but only if sweet crude. You can mail one (1) hot wench + two hundred (200) barrels of sweet crude to my PO Box at your convenience.
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 21:18:20

I spoke with my local postmaster and he informed me that all of that can't be delivered to your PO box, it must be mailed to a physical address
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby Kingcoal » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 21:37:34

Loki, sell your services freelance, there's no future in being an employee anymore. Don't waste one minute looking to get hired as an employee. Get out there and network.
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby max_power29 » Mon 01 Jan 2007, 05:35:49

Its too bad you don't have a wife and kids. You could of gotten a paper divorce and started cranking out even more kids, then the state of Oregon would give you a brand new 3 bedroom apartment for about $70 a month, free food from both WIC and the oregon trail card, free healthcare, and cash to buy drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, fast food, the new xbox and playstation, ten dogs, and a giant SUV with shiny rims.
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby smiley » Mon 01 Jan 2007, 11:45:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')oki, sell your services freelance, there's no future in being an employee anymore. Don't waste one minute looking to get hired as an employee. Get out there and network.


I have great respect for freelancers, but I wouldn't take that step too lightly. Freelancing takes a lot of nerves and a keen business sense. I would give it some serious thought before I would embark on such a thing.

About 80% of the one-man-companies fail before 5 years. A lot of them result in personal bankruptcies. The most common causes are the lack of a good and realistic businessplan, and lack of good management.

- You have to do all administration yourself. That means taxes, write-offs and judicial affairs, but also you have to arrange your own pension. Those are things you have to take very seriously. .
- You have to have some sort of backup for if you fall ill. No work means no income.
- You have to be sure you have a stable client base. I know too many freelancers who are dependent on one client.
- You have to have realistic expectations. For most companies it takes 2 years to reach break-even. You have to have the financial means to survive that period.

I have thought for a long time about going freelance. I finally decided against it for the following reasons.

1) I am good at my job, I am also good when it comes to networking and getting people interested in my work, but I am terrible when it comes to administrative tasks etc. I don't like it and would probably neglect that part. A company ran by would probably within a year have problems with the IRS.
2) I haven't got the nerves. I find it very reassuring to know what I will earn next month and beyond.

So I do contract work at a private research institute. It works like this. I am responsible for getting my own clients and contracts. As long as I get the money I can basically do what I want, so from that perspective I am my own boss.

However I get a fixed base salary from the institute (+ bonuses) and I don't have to worry about the operational side of business. I just do the acquisition and the management of the projects. The institute takes care of all administration, making sure that I have the right people for the projects, taking care of the contracts and judicial affairs.

If you aren't very fond of taking risks (like me) something like this could be an option.
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby cynicalheretic » Mon 01 Jan 2007, 13:04:35

McDonalds is always hiring
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby Chicken_Little » Mon 01 Jan 2007, 15:13:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'M')cDonalds is always hiring



Why is your avatar the symbol of the Nazi Waffen SS Totenkopf Division?

just a question.
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby max_power29 » Tue 02 Jan 2007, 07:15:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicken_Little', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'M')cDonalds is always hiring



Why is your avatar the symbol of the Nazi Waffen SS Totenkopf Division?

just a question.


How do you know its is not the jolly roger?
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby gego » Tue 02 Jan 2007, 09:00:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'I') do need to hire a(n) historian to document my life in a very factitious manner so that I can have a better shot when I run for the presidency in 2016. How much do you charge?


You are an optimist. What makes you think there will be a government left to be president of in 2016? Ten years down the road, well maybe, but 25 years down the road, I bet not.

Loki, I hope things work out for you personally.
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Re: So I was laid off today....

Unread postby Kingcoal » Tue 02 Jan 2007, 11:04:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')oki, sell your services freelance, there's no future in being an employee anymore. Don't waste one minute looking to get hired as an employee. Get out there and network.


I have great respect for freelancers, but I wouldn't take that step too lightly. Freelancing takes a lot of nerves and a keen business sense. I would give it some serious thought before I would embark on such a thing.

About 80% of the one-man-companies fail before 5 years. A lot of them result in personal bankruptcies. The most common causes are the lack of a good and realistic businessplan, and lack of good management.

- You have to do all administration yourself. That means taxes, write-offs and judicial affairs, but also you have to arrange your own pension. Those are things you have to take very seriously. .
- You have to have some sort of backup for if you fall ill. No work means no income.
- You have to be sure you have a stable client base. I know too many freelancers who are dependent on one client.
- You have to have realistic expectations. For most companies it takes 2 years to reach break-even. You have to have the financial means to survive that period.

I have thought for a long time about going freelance. I finally decided against it for the following reasons.

1) I am good at my job, I am also good when it comes to networking and getting people interested in my work, but I am terrible when it comes to administrative tasks etc. I don't like it and would probably neglect that part. A company ran by would probably within a year have problems with the IRS.
2) I haven't got the nerves. I find it very reassuring to know what I will earn next month and beyond.

So I do contract work at a private research institute. It works like this. I am responsible for getting my own clients and contracts. As long as I get the money I can basically do what I want, so from that perspective I am my own boss.

However I get a fixed base salary from the institute (+ bonuses) and I don't have to worry about the operational side of business. I just do the acquisition and the management of the projects. The institute takes care of all administration, making sure that I have the right people for the projects, taking care of the contracts and judicial affairs.

If you aren't very fond of taking risks (like me) something like this could be an option.


You're right Smiley, I've been doing it for 4 years and it's not for the light at heart. However, I doubt I could go back to a (J)ust (O)ver (B)roke again. If you are extreamely good at what you do and you take steps to remain among the best, it's the way to go.
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Layoffs (re: PO posters, family and friends)

Unread postby sittinguy » Tue 05 Feb 2008, 16:52:29

Well they laid off 4 people from the hotel I work at today. Lost 1 from my dept :( Things are slow.

Edit: Changed title.-FL
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Re: Layoffs today

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 05 Feb 2008, 17:01:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sittinguy', 'W')ell they laid off 4 people from the hotel I work at today. Lost 1 from my dept :( Things are slow.


They cut from the bottom! Correct.......


The ones that actually do WORK.
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Re: Layoffs today

Unread postby sittinguy » Tue 05 Feb 2008, 23:30:50

OH yeah, the newest people got the ax
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Re: Layoffs today

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 06 Feb 2008, 22:49:23

I understand that feeling of dread. I got the boot from Countrywide last May. They laid off 12,000 worker bees last year and in 2008-2009 they are expecet to trim 30,000 more.

It sure didn't feel like it at the time but that was the best thing that ever happened to me.
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