[Chesire]

Where is the option for to vote for Who gives a fuck ?

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('highlander', 'H')ow many must die before it is genocide.

[NWMossBack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')Yes, but the Palestinians tend to play this hand, too, so let's not be too hard on the Israelis.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')Yes, but the Palestinians tend to play this hand, too, so let's not be too hard on the Israelis.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')Yes, but the Palestinians tend to play this hand, too, so let's not be too hard on the Israelis.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NWMossBack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'I') never said that the history began in 1967, do you actually read other peoples posts?

[kabu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'T')hrowing money at them is equivalent to throwing money down a well.

[FourOfSwords]

Israel has a bunch of 'bad neighbours' around it. Like you and I if we lived with bad neighbours around us, we would have three options. Firstly, try and be friendly with your neighbours(give your viewpoint, get theirs)~been tried, not much success.
Secondly, try to ignore your bad neighbours~hard to do with rockets falling on your head nearly daily.
Thirdly, move. You and I have this option to us if our neighbours or neighbourhood is really bad, Israel unfortuntely does not have this option.
So, as to why this is not genocide; the Palestinians still exist. Therefore, with so many neighbours with bad intentions, maybe the question should be 'why has not the last 40 years been considered genocide towards the Israelis?'
I am not a 'fan' of the Israelis, nor am I a 'hater' of the Palestinians. This is just History enacting itself. You and I will long be dust in the ground before this is ever resolved.
...of course this is just an opinion, just like all the other posters on this thread...
A.

[NWMossBack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NWMossBack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'I') never said that the history began in 1967, do you actually read other peoples posts?

[Plantagenet]

Hamas has put the Israeli town of Siderot under siege by firing hundreds of rockets into it.

Israel has, so far, been unable to protect the people of Siderot.

Its not hard to guess that their successful attacks on Siderot will encourage Hamas to get bigger missiles and expand their attacks.

IMHO, Hamas will soon be attacking more cities in Israel with missiles.

At some point the attacks will become intolerable, and the Israelis will have to do something dramatic to protect themselves.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kabu', '
')You should at least know your recent history. With the pull out from Gaza came an even greater influx of settlement resources into the West Bank,

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')
Listen, plenty of people have been mistreated in the history of the planet but they haven't all resorted to pussy-ass terrorist tactics which just further enrage the other side. Reconciliation is the more pragmatic approach
.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', ' ')What makes Israel any different than Nazi Germany?

[Plantagenet]

The three kinds of anti-semitism:


"Historian Bernard Lewis argues that the new antisemitism represents the third, or ideological, wave of antisemitism, the first two waves being religious and racial antisemitism.[29]
Lewis defines antisemitism as a special case of prejudice, hatred, or persecution directed against people who are in some way different from the rest. According to Lewis, antisemitism is marked by two distinct features: Jews are judged according to a standard different from that applied to others, and they are accused of cosmic evil. He writes that what he calls the first wave of antisemitism arose with the advent of Christianity because of the Jews' rejection of Jesus as Messiah. The second wave, racial anti-Semitism, emerged in Spain when large numbers of Jews were forcibly converted, and doubts about the sincerity of the converts led to ideas about the importance of "la limpieza de sangre", purity of blood.[29]
He associates the third wave with the Arabs, and writes that it arose only in part because of the establishment of the State of Israel. Until the 19th century, Muslims had regarded Jews with what Lewis calls "amused, tolerant superiority" — they were seen as physically weak, cowardly, and unmilitary — and although Jews living in Muslim countries were not treated as equals, they were shown a certain amount of respect. The Western form of antisemitism — what Lewis calls "the cosmic, satanic version of Jew hatred" — arrived in the Middle East in several stages, beginning with Christian missionaries in the 19th century, and continued to grow slowly into the 20th century, up to the establishment of the Third Reich. He writes that it increased because of the humiliation of the Israeli military victories of 1948 and 1967.[29] (See 1948 Arab-Israeli War and Six Day War.)
Into this mix entered the United Nations. Lewis argues that the United Nations' handling of the 1948 refugee situation convinced the Arab world that discrimination against Jews was acceptable. When the ancient Jewish community in East Jerusalem was evicted and its monuments desecrated or destroyed, they were offered no help. Similarly, when Jewish refugees fled or were driven out of Arab countries, no help was offered, but elaborate arrangements were made for Arabs who fled or were driven out of the area that became Israel. All the Arab governments involved in the conflict announced that they would not admit Israelis of any religion into their territories, and that they would not give visas to Jews, no matter which country they were citizens of. Lewis argues that the failure of the United Nations to protest sent a clear message to the Arab world.[29]
He writes that this third wave of antisemitism has in common with the first wave that Jews are able to be part of it. With religious antisemitism, Jews were able to distance themselves from Judaism, and Lewis writes that some even reached high rank within the church and the Inquisition. With racial antisemitism, this was not possible, but with the new, ideological, antisemitism, Jews are once again able to join the critics. The new antisemitism also allows non-Jews, he argues, to criticize or attack Jews without feeling overshadowed by the crimes of the Nazis.[29]"

---from the link in my post one up.

[kabu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')That doesn't explain how the Palestinians have been unable to do anything productive in Gaza, especially now that they have broken off into its own separate government.

[mekrob]

Just out of curiosity, has anyone here ever been to Gaza, West Bank or Israel?

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kabu', '
')Well they've been going through a massive energy crisis for a while, for starters... an essential power plant kinda got... blown up.

[kabu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '
')That kind of stuff happens, you know, um, in a WAR.

[roccman]

The High Court of Justice on Wednesday gave the state a green light to reduce the supply of power and fuel to the Gaza Strip, ruling that the reductions are legal as they still meet the humanitarian needs of the population.

[deMolay]

Why is it genocide when the Jews build a wall, but not when the Crazy Mo's build a wall ie; Eygpt to keep out the Crazy Mo Palestinian's? Just a question?