[greenworm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')30something

[Narz]

I just subtlety said something about the amount of tax dollars (or lack thereof) I pay. Obviously it went in below the radar.

[Schadenfreude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'O')bviously it went in below the radar.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'O')bviously it went in below the radar.

[jasonraymondson]

Ethical to pay taxes.

BS

There said it.

I am not ethically bound to jack shit, just legally. The fucking government can suck my balls. They don't represent me and they sure as hell don't represent my family. A bunch of wealthy fuckers that I would even waste my piss on

[Bas]

Even for my relative young age this is...legend.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'E')thical to pay taxes.

BS

There said it.

I am not ethically bound to jack shit, just legally. The fucking government can suck my balls. They don't represent me and they sure as hell don't represent my family.

[eastbay]

Good point Heineken... he could have dies very wealthy and probably lived longer if he had sucked up to The Monster. One must give his credit for that.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'E')thical to pay taxes.

BS

There said it.

I am not ethically bound to jack shit, just legally. The fucking government can suck my balls. They don't represent me and they sure as hell don't represent my family. A bunch of wealthy fuckers that I would even waste my piss on

[I_Like_Plants]

The book "Radical Simplicity" is in most decent bookstores, buy it cash, and read read read.

The way to kill TPTB is to drop out of the money/debt system as much as possible, and to live well on little enough to avoid paying at least most taxes.

You can be happier on $6000 a year than a lot of yuppies are on $60k a year, in fact most who've invested their lives in the money/debt system are fairly fucking miserable.

Not paying taxes in of itself isn't heroic. The have the ability to make tons of money and live like a yup-scum and choose not to, is heroic. That's what Merkel decided to do, that's what the Unibomber decided to do (yes I consider him to be fairly heroic although I think he should have spent his time at the typewriter instead of building dumb little wooden bombs) and so on. Remember Ted was a top-flight mathematician, who'd be earning something like $200k as a senior prof right now.

Remember the place our system has for guys like Fischer is either being a yuppie all the way and voting for Hillary for the 4th time because she's just started war on 13 new countries, or if he can't play that game, to end up muttering with tin cup in hand in front of a 7-11. Fischer held out against our system while speaking up against it for a long time.

[Narz]

Personally I'd rather get rich (& pay as little tax as a could). Like it or not, the richer one is the more one has the potential to do good (in this society). There are other ways of course like thru writing &/or volunteering but money is the fastest route to get anything accomplished (preserving land, building a homestead, etc.).

I respect the radical simplicity ideal, just saying fuck you to the whole game & dropping out altogether, I just like more control over my life. I've been near broke a long time now & it's not enjoyable for me (sleeping in cramped tiny rooms w/ my GF in other people's apartments, not eating as well as I'd like to due to cost). So I have to play them game.

If I had a few hundred K initial investment to build a homestead, buy animals, farming tools, solar panels, etc. I could probably live on $5K a year for the rest of my life (adjusted for inflation).

[I_Like_Plants]

Narz you're right where the Empire wants you. "If I only had a few hundred K.." so you'll slave your life away trying to make those few hundred K, ignoring everything the Empire does just so you can get that few hundred K... you'll never get it, but you'll put in a full life voting for the biggest warmongers, helping put pot smokers in jail, anything, anything at all, just so you can get that sweet chunk of heroin, woops I mean money.

You need to go read Ran Prieur's site, do what I did and read every fucking word, even the old stuff from his zines in the 80s, Then read it again.

The Unibomber didn't need a few hundred K, nor did the Unibomber's rather saintly brother, who looked up to him. Ran Prieur doesn't need a few hundred K.

I myself would like a few hundred K, but I'm awakened and I realized I may never see a few K in the rest of my life. For most of us, a few hundred may be a huge amount of money - if you don't believe me, wait a decade and see.

So, the trick, how to defeat the Empire, is to do what you need to do without the Empire's money or at least without very much of it.

That is the mission that scares most Empire subjects shitless.

[greenworm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'a')mount of tax dollars

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreud', '
')
QF1!

Didn't anyone see the beauty of it? He was 14 when he won that game.

[Schadenfreude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreud', '
')
QF1!

Didn't anyone see the beauty of it? He was 14 when he won that game.

[NWMossBack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schadenfreude', 'I') suppose it was a "gimme" from Shermer, who did not see that the rook check was a game losing move. Still, Fisher saw the opportunity and capitalized on it.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'N')arz you're right where the Empire wants you. "If I only had a few hundred K.." so you'll slave your life away trying to make those few hundred K, ignoring everything the Empire does just so you can get that few hundred K... you'll never get it, but you'll put in a full life voting for the biggest warmongers, helping put pot smokers in jail, anything, anything at all, just so you can get that sweet chunk of heroin, woops I mean money.

You need to go read Ran Prieur's site, do what I did and read every fucking word, even the old stuff from his zines in the 80s, Then read it again.

The Unibomber didn't need a few hundred K, nor did the Unibomber's rather saintly brother, who looked up to him. Ran Prieur doesn't need a few hundred K.

I myself would like a few hundred K, but I'm awakened and I realized I may never see a few K in the rest of my life. For most of us, a few hundred may be a huge amount of money - if you don't believe me, wait a decade and see.

So, the trick, how to defeat the Empire, is to do what you need to do without the Empire's money or at least without very much of it.

That is the mission that scares most Empire subjects shitless.

[I_Like_Plants]

www.ranprieur.com it is.

Or if I spelled it wrong, try a few spellings and see what you get!

Narz, your parents might WANT to give you a few hundred K, but while they theoretically may have it now, that's changing fast. Everyone is invested in subprime and all kinds of exotic by which is meant dodgy as hell, financial um, products. Funny paper. I mean, CalPers and all the other pension funds, your 401k and everyone else's 401k, you name it. There's one hell of a financial meltdown going on right now

So, really, it's like this - there may not be a few hundred K available to much of anyone who doesn't already have a Learjet and a place in Switzerland.

So you'll have to try to do things the Ran Prieur way and do it without having that few hundred k.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'N')arz, your parents might WANT to give you a few hundred K, but while they theoretically may have it now, that's changing fast. Everyone is invested in subprime and all kinds of exotic by which is meant dodgy as hell, financial um, products. Funny paper. I mean, CalPers and all the other pension funds, your 401k and everyone else's 401k, you name it. There's one hell of a financial meltdown going on right now

So, really, it's like this - there may not be a few hundred K available to much of anyone who doesn't already have a Learjet and a place in Switzerland.

[hubbertspeak7777777]

Watching a chess game is great cure insomnia. It works even better than watching Star Trek or Cheers re-runs.