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Jail for Talking

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 01:20:04

I find it absolutely unbelievable that anyone could be sent to jail for Jail Years behind bars for this or this or this.

Jail for talking. I'm just floored and find it incomprehensible that Europeans are regularly jailed for holding minority opinions.

Maybe it's what might be expected from the people who invented the iron maiden. Six years in jail for talking. What kind of twisted people are still running around in Europe anyhow? It's interesting that the people who brought to this earth such fantastic advances in medicine and science still retain genetic remnants of a medieval mentality that allows this sick punishment to occur.
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby Alcassin » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 01:44:19

I suppose publically denying holocaust is forbidden by law in almost every country in Europe. Whatever, it's a very nasty way to promote free speech by holocaust denial.
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby Bas » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 01:47:59

actually I find it absolutely unbelievable that the US has both the highest absolute as well as the highest relative incarceration rate of the world.

The land of the free :)
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 01:53:42

Yeah, Bas.... but at least here you have to be convicted (or in jail pending trial) of actually DOING something. Not SAYING something. Jailing people for saying politically incorrect or unpopular things is just flat out insane. Europeans may have trouble understanding this... after all, the iron maiden was approved by earlier European governments. Few complained about that either.

There are many times when I'm really glad to be living in the USA... even though a regime change would be nice.
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 03:45:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'a')ctually I find it absolutely unbelievable that the US has both the highest absolute as well as the highest relative incarceration rate of the world.

The land of the free :)



What is wrong with the united states is that people are not properly punished.

If you murder you should be murdered. If you rape you should be raped then murdered. If you steal you should have your hand cut off.

Let the pot smoker out of prision, they get more time then most rapist
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby Narz » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 03:58:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'L')et the pot smoker out of prision, they get more time then most rapist

great minds think alike ;)
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby Bas » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 04:06:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
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What is wrong with the united states is that people are not properly punished.

If you murder you should be murdered. If you rape you should be raped then murdered. If you steal you should have your hand cut off.

Let the pot smoker out of prision, they get more time then most rapist


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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he US has both the highest absolute as well as the highest relative incarceration rate of the world.
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby Bas » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 04:26:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'Y')eah, Bas.... but at least here you have to be convicted (or in jail pending trial) of actually DOING something. Not SAYING something. Jailing people for saying politically incorrect or unpopular things is just flat out insane. Europeans may have trouble understanding this... after all, the iron maiden was approved by earlier European governments. Few complained about that either.

There are many times when I'm really glad to be living in the USA... even though a regime change would be nice.


hmmm, quite establishment after all aren't you pinko?.....dweep
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby Pretorian » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 04:28:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'a')ctually I find it absolutely unbelievable that the US has both the highest absolute as well as the highest relative incarceration rate of the world.

The land of the free :)



What is wrong with the united states is that people are not properly punished.

If you murder you should be murdered. If you rape you should be raped then murdered. If you steal you should have your hand cut off.

Let the pot smoker out of prision, they get more time then most rapist



US laws work in misterious ways indeed. Jewish terrorist, who tried to blow up a US congressman in a public place, gets 20 years. A mentally ill man, who threw a bottle with gasoline into the synagoque's wall when noone was even inside, and damaged some painting on it, got 36.
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 04:28:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'L')et the pot smoker out of prision, they get more time then most rapist

great minds think alike ;)


True that, but 10,845 posts, seriously dude, we need to get you laid :razz:
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 11:27:08

Just a little happening in my home town. I know the kid who killed this old guy. He is a giant weighing close to 300 pounds. He could have shoved this old man down and walked away. Instead, he chose to shoot him. What would you do for these sweet hearts? They did not rob this old man because they were hungry. None of these kids missed a meal. They killed this old man for the rush. They were living out a movie.

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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 13:51:14

No Bas, you silly rabbit, not 'establishment', I'm just a basic common sense law and order type. You know, safe streets and all that.

Let the dope smokers out. Have the serious drug users clean roads and parks, and let free speech reign true for all across the lands. A few more ideas along these lines would help too.

Yes, things are a bit mixed up in the states too. Maybe another thread could explore this. I was simply pointing out that this recent wave of prosecutions was just for the past week or so. I've recently read there are hundreds and hundreds of people jailed across Europe for openly discussing That Taboo Topic among others. And it's just plain evil. Where are the protests? It's as evil as it gets. The iron maiden is smiling over this.
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 14:11:52

Remember the Democrat-originated and Democrat-pushed Thoughtcrime Bill, under which we're all going to be considered "domestic terrorists".

You can go to jail for talking or even thinking in the Empire.
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby TheDude » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 16:44:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '[')url=http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=6383749#post6383749]great minds think alike ;)[/url]


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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby paimei01 » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 16:47:18

They are stupid the ones who make those laws about the holocaust denial.
I did not care before but now I begin to hate Jews just because the law against speaking against them is there, nothing else. And because I am too "weak" to take on the ones that make these laws I direct my anger elsewhere. Stupid me
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 17:54:10

I also could not figure out why there's all this hatred of Jews, myself. It puzzled me for a LONG time. And why were they so much more privilaged, why did they seem to be in positions of power even while whining about poor treatment (and really getting it, in revolts against their rule) and so on? Why was it such a hot button?

Well, all I can say is, read read read and since you're in Romania, talk to the old people who've lived history.
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby eastbay » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 17:58:09

That may be so Zardoz, but remember, there are many ways to support a very ugly policy. You can actively voice support, you can acquiesce, or you can join in with the mob and attack those arguing against it.

They all amount to the same thing.
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Re: Jail for Talking

Unread postby Falconoffury » Sat 19 Jan 2008, 21:26:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat is wrong with the united states is that people are not properly punished.

If you murder you should be murdered. If you rape you should be raped then murdered. If you steal you should have your hand cut off.


The question is, how much do you pay the guy who rapes the criminals?

Raping really doesn't sound that bad compared to murder.
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