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What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a house?

Unread postby TreeFarmer » Mon 24 Dec 2007, 11:56:40

The title says it all, what is the best one-week heat source for a house during an emergency? I live in Pennsylvania and currently heat with Nat Gas and I have to have electricity to make this work.

So, what is the best alternative heating souce should there be up to a 1 week outage in either or both of electricity and Nat Gas?

I've considered a Pellet Stove, Wood Stove, Coal Stove but I'm wondering what everyone here thinks. I would most likely install whatever I buy in the finished part of my basement where I have a large family room.

So far I'm leaning toward a Pellet Stove with a battery backup coupled with some small generator to recharge the battery OR a small Coal Stove and building a coal bin in the unfinished part of my basement for the coal.

Let's hear it folks, what would you do?

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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby pup55 » Mon 24 Dec 2007, 12:29:58

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When in doubt, go with 300-year old technology, invented in exactly that part of the country, so no problem with adaptability or fuel source.

The other 51 weeks per year, it can be an elegant addition to your basement decor.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby Bas » Mon 24 Dec 2007, 12:55:34

I was gonna say electricity, but since that is out of the question...

depends on where you live, if you live in the country side wood might be best, but you have to plan that in advance (chopping/drying of wood). In the city coal might be best, but since the whole infrastructure for the supply of coal to consumers seems to have gone this wouldn't be a long term solution, so it may be better to go for heatingoil (if you're dependent on Gas)

Anyway, it's a good idea to not be dependent on one source of heat, especially when you live in a place where it can get very cold in winter.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby kokoda » Mon 24 Dec 2007, 13:02:23

Can't go past a pot belly stove. You can just about burn anything in it.

Not only will it keep you warm but you can cook with it and heat water.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby RonMN » Mon 24 Dec 2007, 13:49:21

for an "emergency" you don't want to rely on anything but yourself...so pellets are out (they may be in short supply).

Forget the battery backup & generator...I would go with a stove that can burn both coal & wood...then have a X week supply of fuel at the ready.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby Tanada » Mon 24 Dec 2007, 16:02:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TreeFarmer', 'T')he title says it all, what is the best one-week heat source for a house during an emergency? I live in Pennsylvania and currently heat with Nat Gas and I have to have electricity to make this work.

So, what is the best alternative heating souce should there be up to a 1 week outage in either or both of electricity and Nat Gas?

I've considered a Pellet Stove, Wood Stove, Coal Stove but I'm wondering what everyone here thinks. I would most likely install whatever I buy in the finished part of my basement where I have a large family room.

So far I'm leaning toward a Pellet Stove with a battery backup coupled with some small generator to recharge the battery OR a small Coal Stove and building a coal bin in the unfinished part of my basement for the coal.

Let's hear it folks, what would you do?

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A propane fueled Coleman lantern will give you light and heat, but they can get expensive to fuel. If you are serious I would go for a Franklin stove and I would save up a few newspapers for kindling and a few bags of charcole for emergencies. You can stack bags of cheap charcole on a pallet in the corner of your unfinished basement so they are off the floor and dry. They keep forever and a day, and this time of year you can probably pick some up on clearence at the local hardware store.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby Fishman » Mon 24 Dec 2007, 19:47:08

Cheapest source for one week is definitely kerosene. Not the safest, not the cleanest, but easily affordable. You could also make that a kerosene wick stove, heat and eat off the same source.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby Ayoob » Tue 25 Dec 2007, 05:33:28

For one week? I've heated my leaky as hell Chicago apartment in the dead of winter on a Kerosene heater and sat in my boxers sweating balls the whole time. Cost me about ten bucks.

At the moment in Southern California, I heat my apartment with an 8 quart pot of water (with a stick of cinnamon and a pinch of cloves and nutmeg for a nice holiday smell) on natural gas, but could do with propane in a pinch. Propane would run about $11 for 36 hours of burn time. I could stretch 36 hours of burn time for six hours a day for six days and take the last day off.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Tue 25 Dec 2007, 09:11:47

some stores have propane heaters that are the
size of a large microwave oven or small fridge.
i think in the range of $300 to $500.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby mattduke » Tue 15 Jan 2008, 00:59:49

I second the kerosene heater.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby JRP3 » Thu 17 Jan 2008, 00:03:51

A guy named Treefarmer asking what's the best way to heat? Comon, it's too obvious. WOOD STOVE! You can burn wood, twigs, newspaper, furniture, whatever. You don't need electricity, gas or kerosene.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby SchroedingersCat » Thu 17 Jan 2008, 00:09:10

Dear catalog retailer,
Please put me on your mailing list. Stove hungry.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby Gerben » Thu 17 Jan 2008, 16:34:26

Asuming that this emergency hits your neighbours as well: move your tv and other stuff you don't need out to the garage. Invite your neighbours over and play cards every night till dark. People emit heat.
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Re: What's the best short-term (~1 wk) heat source for a hou

Unread postby Pops » Thu 17 Jan 2008, 19:49:23

Buy a pile of secondhand clothes and blankets, get thin layers with lots of loft and pile them on.
Don't forget to drain the pipes or leave them drip.

If you still have money, buy a couple of propane bottles and a vent-less radiant heater with CO2 sensor and legs to sit on a combustible floor.
Heat one or two rooms, hang blankets over the doorways to the others.
Don’t sleep in the same room! Use your spare blankets and wear clothes to bed.
The heater is $150 or so and full bottles maybe $50 each – and you can use them for the barbeque later.

If you still have money then ...
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