[toast]

Is the charging of an usury, which is an ensnaring tool of the world elite banking system, be threaten by something called, Islamic Sharia banking, which charges no usury? Can the current clash of civilizations be that simple? I thought all banks needed to charge an interest in order to exist. This Islamic Sharia banking is new to me.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... a&aid=7783

[seldom_seen]

If I'm not mistaken, all the major religions warn of the perils of usury, and outright discourage it or forbid it.

That doesn't really mean anything though.

Islamic countries like SA and the gulf emirates are large shareholders in the US banking system and all its glorious usurious profits.

The outlaw of usury under sharia law is a good thing I think. Sharia law though has way too much barbaric stone age baggage to ever become a viable alternative to the dominant paradigm.

The only way it is ever implemented is beating down any resistance, cutting their heads off, beating them to a pulp, raping their women, shooting their dogs and forcing them to bow to mecca and obey sharia law or else.

[mekrob]

Hizb-uT-Tahrir is fairly strong, numbering more than a million worldwide. Is prominent in more than 40 nations around the world

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f I'm not mistaken, all the major religions warn of the perils of usury, and outright discourage it or forbid it.

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'R')ead the article? Christianity and Judaism had no problem with it.

[mkwin]

Without finance we would be unable to get finance for business ventures or homes. The current fiasco is a blip that if peak oil was not to happen would be irrelevant within 5-10 years.

Who cares what the Bible says. 75% of it is rubbish.

[MacG]

Pffh.. The Persian Central Bank is full member of BIS. Don't see any remarkable deviations from them. Usury as far as the eye can see.

http://www.bis.org/cbanks.htm

[IslandCrow]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mkwin', 'W')ithout finance we would be unable to get finance for business ventures or homes.

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')If thou lend money to any of My people, even to the poor with thee, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest. (Exodus, 22:25 [7])

[Kingcoal]

"Hi, we'd like to buy your oil."

"Ok, that will be .1 oz gold/bl please."

"Sorry, we don't do that but we have these things called dollars and if you take them you can reinvest them into our economy so we can buy more oil. You'll get rich in the process."

"No thanks, gold please."

"If you don't want dollars, we have lead we can throw lead your way!"

"In that case, I'll take the dollars, sir."

"Good boy, here you go, by the way, you're oil is too expensive."

"But your dollars aren't worth anything... Sir."

"Look, I said your oil is too expensive, what don't you understand by that statement?"

"I'm sorry... I must have lost my mind a little... Please don't hurt me."

"All right, we're good guys, we'll help you out here, we'll lend you a bunch of dollars based on your oil assets, how does that sound?"

"Um, ah, well, OK... Sir. Please don’t hurt me!"

"You can buy a lot of stuff with dollars, we'll guarantee that."

"I believe you; I believe that you can guarantee that..."

"Good boy, you're gettin with the program here, I've got my eye on you, you're gona go far... Ever want to be absolute ruler of your country? We can help you out with that if you want..."

"Hmmm..."

I think you can fill in the blanks.

[Cid_Yama]

The problem is fractional banking, more than just interest.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1279&hl=en

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'T')he problem is fractional banking, more than just interest.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1279&hl=en

[Cid_Yama]

Had we not already fractionalized debt to the extent we have, maybe something could be done. Unfortunately it is WAY to late. NONE of the currency that exists is backed by anything. The ONLY reason that piece of paper in your wallet is worth anything, is because that cashier is willing to let you walk out of the store with your purchase, in exchange for it. Same with the cards. As long as 'APPROVED' is good enough for the cashier you're good. Nothing to guarantee that will continue.

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'H')ad we not already fractionalized debt to the extent we have, maybe something could be done. Unfortunately it is WAY to late. NONE of the currency that exists is backed by anything. The ONLY reason that piece of paper in your wallet is worth anything, is because that cashier is willing to let you walk out of the store with your purchase, in exchange for it. Same with the cards. As long as 'APPROVED' is good enough for the cashier you're good. Nothing to guarantee that will continue.

[psyop101]

If you have a few hours this goog video is good.
The Money Masters
I had never heard of Talley sticks until I saw this, apparently is worked as a form of currency for 700+ years?

I was checking out the new trans-Atlantic economic partnership or whatever they are going to call it and found this article...

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/spingola/070512

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Deanna Spingola', 'W')ar, financed on both sides by international bankers, desolates lives, destroys economies, depletes resources, moves massive amounts of money and promotes despair, discouragement and dependence within the population and creates more wealth and power for the corporate elite. To the elite, common humanity functions merely as cannon fodder and labor, the cheaper, the better! The purpose of war is profit. War-torn people easily fall prey to the suggestions of the elitists who have ulterior and highly profitable motives in offering security and solace.

[ConcernedConsumer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'I')f I'm not mistaken, all the major religions warn of the perils of usury, and outright discourage it or forbid it.

That doesn't really mean anything though.

Islamic countries like SA and the gulf emirates are large shareholders in the US banking system and all its glorious usurious profits.

The outlaw of usury under sharia law is a good thing I think. Sharia law though has way too much barbaric stone age baggage to ever become a viable alternative to the dominant paradigm.

The only way it is ever implemented is beating down any resistance, cutting their heads off, beating them to a pulp, raping their women, shooting their dogs and forcing them to bow to mecca and obey sharia law or else.

[btu2012]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', '"')Hi, we'd like to buy your oil."

"Ok, that will be .1 oz gold/bl please." [...]