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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 07 Jan 2008, 02:59:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', '
')How do you replace mercury fillings (in big molars) without have to get rid of the whole tooth? Can that rip the filling out and put in white fillings?


Last time I had a filling done, I had them replace all my existing mercury fillings with the white composite and it wasn't a problem. I think they basically just "drill out" the old filling and replace it with the new material.

I don't see why people should be so concerned about mercury fillings. It's just a CHOICE these days. They do tell you the composite fillings don't last as long, but who cares? If they wear out, just have them replace them.
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby katkinkate » Mon 07 Jan 2008, 04:55:41

I found the white fillings tended to shrink allowing food and bacteria into the cracks and rotting out more tooth. My one root canal is because of this. I went to one dentist 3 times to 'repair' a filling and each time he would drill more tooth out. Eventually I gave up with him and went elsewhere and got the root canal, which has been hurting on and off since. I think I'll just get it pulled out all together some time soon.
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby jupiters_release » Mon 07 Jan 2008, 07:07:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', '
')How do you replace mercury fillings (in big molars) without have to get rid of the whole tooth? Can that rip the filling out and put in white fillings?


Last time I had a filling done, I had them replace all my existing mercury fillings with the white composite and it wasn't a problem. I think they basically just "drill out" the old filling and replace it with the new material.

I don't see why people should be so concerned about mercury fillings. It's just a CHOICE these days.


Why did you have the amalgams removed if you're not worried about mercury?
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby dukey » Mon 07 Jan 2008, 10:12:26

im getting my root canal tooth pulled next monday

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingn ... tract.html

Gonna get a bridge or a zirconium dioxide implant to replace it perhaps.

As for mercury being bad. Whahh i thunk it was go0d for you. The tv told me so.

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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby frankthetank » Mon 07 Jan 2008, 10:20:16

Our dental plan started covering implants this year, that what i'm going to try.
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby dukey » Mon 07 Jan 2008, 10:30:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')itanium allergy is barely recognized in mainstream medicine - yet laboratories using the MELISA® technology have reported that about 4% of all patients tested to titanium will be allergic to it (Valentine-Thon E., et al. "LTT-MELISA® is clinically relevant for detecting and monitoring metal sensitivity". Neuro Endocrinol Lett 2006; 27(Suppl 1):17–24). For those affected with titanium allergy, the symptoms can be multiple and bewildering. These can range from simple skin rashes to muscle pain and fatigue.

From foodstuff to medicine, titanium is now an everyday metal. Several brands of candy, such as Skittles and M&M, have titanium dioxide in the coating - often described by its E-number: E171. Some brands of toothpaste contain titanium particles. Hospitals use titanium implants to rebuild bones after accidents.

More than just a rash: the effects of titanium allergy

Like all metals, titanium releases particles through corrosion. These metals become ions in the body and bind to body proteins. For those who react, the body will try to attack this structure. This starts a chain reaction which can lead to many symptoms including Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. The MELISA® test is the only scientifically-proven test which can objectively diagnose titanium allergy and measure its severity.


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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he pictures illustrate a patient with psoriasis before and after the removal of titanium implants in the oral cavity. The patient had been diagnosed with metal allergy and sensitivity to house dust mite. The offending metal was removed and the patient started using mite-free bed linen. No corticosteroids were used.


If you are after a titanium implant, get metal allergy tested otherwise you risk destroying your health. They never bother to test if people are allergic to titatnium, as well they aren't concerned about your health at all.
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 07 Jan 2008, 16:47:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', '
')Why did you have the amalgams removed if you're not worried about mercury?


I never said I wasn't worried about mercury. I'm not worried about them AS MUCH as others in this thread. But I don't like the look of metallic fillings and I'm not sure anyone else does aside from rappers who get gold caps put in. At least with composite fillings you can kind of hide the fact you have fillings.
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby frankthetank » Tue 08 Jan 2008, 12:31:26

I got the pain problem cleared up, but the tooth is still there. I have to go to the clinic (hospital) tomorrow to have it removed. Should be interesting to see how that goes. Didn't realize tooth removal was such a big deal. I got a prescription for penicillin and vicodin. I think the penicillin is working. That vicodin crap makes my mouth dry. I only took one and hope i don't have to take anymore.

We live in a root canal nation! The estimated cost of a root canal/crown on this tooth is $1700+. Insurance picking up a lot, but i told them no thanks.

If you want an implant make sure you go to an oral surgeon, because it seems that most dentists don't do the "implant" part, they just put the top on. If i had the money i'd pull everything thats bad an have all implants put in.

No problems with titanium that i know.
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby frankthetank » Wed 09 Jan 2008, 13:11:39

Tooth gone!

I went to an oral surgeon and he popped it out in less then a minute. Afterwards he was showing me the tooth and said there was a pocket under my molar caused by bone loss and that bacteria was getting in there. Told me i made the right choice in getting it removed. Also said a root canal wouldn't have fixed the problem of the bacteria getting under the tooth.

Now i've got to wait a few months and let this thing heal up and see what an implant is going to run me.
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby dukey » Wed 09 Jan 2008, 13:24:16

if the surgeon didn't remove the peridontal ligament then you could be left with a cavitation which can be just as damaging to your health as a root canal

basically when the bone heals, it sees ligament so it 'thinks' there must be a tooth there. So the bone grows around it leaving a hole in your jaw.
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby frankthetank » Wed 09 Jan 2008, 13:36:45

I've read about that. Thats what holds the tooth in the socket? There was some stuff stuck the the tooth.

All i know is that he went in a scraped around some, but i don't think he was removing anything, just making sure nothing was left behind.

My biggest worry was getting this thing out so that the infection didn't spread to my brain and kill me, and that i waste over $1700 on a root canal that would've ended up failing (that would've been #2 for me).
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Re: The Root Canal Cover-Up

Unread postby dukey » Wed 09 Jan 2008, 14:19:39

yeah ligaments hold your teeth in
and it really is quite important to remove them
or this can happen

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')avitations are extremely difficult to visualize on x-rays. No cavitations were observed on the x-rays of the jawbone. The dark areas are infected. In the insert a dentist has placed a dental drill in a cleaned out cavitation to illustrate how deep some cavitations are.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ob Jones, the inventor of the CAVITAT (an ultrasound insturment
designed to detect and image cavitations) found cavitations of
various sizes and severity in approximately 94% of several
thousand wisdom teeth sites scanned. He also found cavitations
under or located near 100% of root canal teeth scanned in both
males and females of various ages from several different
geographic areas of the United States.

Note: Cavitations (jaw infections) can be entirely painless,
or they can cause referred pain elsewhere in the body, such
as in the lower back. Cavitations often cause sub-acute
endocarditis (heart infections) which can flare up and kill.


I actually gave the link of how to extract the tooth properly earlier on in this thread. I guess you missed it. I printed it out and took it to the dentist when i went last week, but luckily she knew all about how to remove teeth properly so didn't need to get the paper out :p

Cavitations can be extremely distructive to your health. I think it's worse if you have had a tooth that has a had a root canal.
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