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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby greenworm » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 20:06:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')lso if the electric sun has a polarity (as it should) then the content of the solar wind will be either positive or negative. But the solar wind isn't.


Not necessarily. Yes, the sun has polarity, this has been proven, no debate there. Solar wind is merely charged particles, i.e. ions, having both positive and negative charges. Since the sun consists of both charges it stands to reason it will also emit both. I am not sure where you are heading with this one.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby greenworm » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 21:39:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ctually an electric sun would be more uniform, while a nuclear sun would have more dynamic plasma flows.


Do you mind getting me a quote, I searched for 'uniform', but the word is used too often in this paper? I can't find where they proved the above statement.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o how can you exclude the nuclear sun?


Do you mean from the core? The theory is based on the interaction of a core and an electrical field, the nuclear reaction is the product expressed on the surface. This is where theory must remain theory and both sides look at each other and say, 'man, I wish I knew the answer to that.' However, neither side can accurately prove their theory of choice when it comes to the core.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby AWPrime » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 07:06:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ets start here, where is this galactic current?


All around you.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')lso why isn't earth affected by this galactic current?


Show me a quote and I'll try to research it, but I don't think anyone would say this from plasmologist camp, it kinda goes against the whole idea.
If it is all around us then why can't we detect it and why isn't earth affected?


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')lso if the electric sun has a polarity (as it should) then the content of the solar wind will be either positive or negative. But the solar wind isn't.
Not necessarily. Yes, the sun has polarity, this has been proven, no debate there.
Prove it.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')olar wind is merely charged particles, i.e. ions, having both positive and negative charges. Since the sun consists of both charges it stands to reason it will also emit both. I am not sure where you are heading with this one.In such a situation we won't have a solar wind, the charged particles would simply curve to the parts of the sun with the reversed charge.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ctually an electric sun would be more uniform, while a nuclear sun would have more dynamic plasma flows. Do you mind getting me a quote, I searched for 'uniform', but the word is used too often in this paper? I can't find where they proved the above statement.You said it yourself with the statement that the sun is an electrode, which is non-dynamic and mostly uniform.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby greenworm » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 13:52:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f it is all around us then why can't we detect it and why isn't earth affected?


We do detect it (ions in space have been measured by many a scientist), stick your hand out, you might catch some. You can't just wish ions away, they exist. Earth is effected, without it we die.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou said it yourself with the statement that the sun is an electrode, which is non-dynamic and mostly uniform.


'Behave' is different from 'is'. Assuming non-dynamic is a fallacy one cannot make in this case, because you are assuming that it works just like an electrode which is bound by certain constraints such as the shape of the conductive material, the power source to the electrode. The galaxy is a little more complex than that in the sense that the power source to the sun can change/fluctuate and there are multiple power sources at any given time. The electrode concept is used to merely express that the sun is a conductor of sorts and not merely a power source in and of itself. Hope that helps.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby AWPrime » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 17:32:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f it is all around us then why can't we detect it and why isn't earth affected?


We do detect it (ions in space have been measured by many a scientist), stick your hand out, you might catch some. You can't just wish ions away, they exist. Earth is effected, without it we die.

Any ion flow that could power the sun would fry the earth.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby greenworm » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 17:54:58

This is true, in fact the ion flow without the magnetosphere would induce temperatures beyond 300 degrees on this planet. Are you ready for that? 8O :twisted: [smilie=5hot.gif] If you don't trust me, ask the moon. :lol:

In terms of polarity, I think you need to ask NASA about that, those silly goofballs are the ones who promote the notion, they even tell you when there is going to be a polarity flip.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby bodigami » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 21:24:52

nah, the:

- existence is vital-energy/chakra/prana/qi converted to matter (which is energy condensed in a low vibration) or manifestations of this primary energy (electrical being one manifestation, the energy to hold many "particles" together or "gravity another, and so on)
- existence is informational in nature
- existence is a whole, unique conciousness

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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby AWPrime » Fri 04 Jan 2008, 08:28:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', 'T')his is true, in fact the ion flow without the magnetosphere would induce temperatures beyond 300 degrees on this planet. Are you ready for that? 8O :twisted: [smilie=5hot.gif] If you don't trust me, ask the moon. :lol:
Sorry that doersn't make any sense, because then we won't have low temperatures in the shadow of the sun, we would have a constant Aurora Borealis and satellites won't last a week.

These things aren't happening.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n terms of polarity, I think you need to ask NASA about that, those silly goofballs are the ones who promote the notion, they even tell you when there is going to be a polarity flip.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm
That is a magnetic polarity. Not an electric one.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby greenworm » Fri 04 Jan 2008, 13:08:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat is a magnetic polarity. Not an electric one.



They are both the movement of electrons.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hese things aren't happening.


Wait patiently, the Indians have. :twisted:


If you want to discuss it more, I suggest going to the thunderbolts forum, there are plenty of folks interested in the topic. The temperatures are warming up this week and I will be on the road looking for relics, so I won't have time to continue this little debate.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby AWPrime » Fri 04 Jan 2008, 20:58:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat is a magnetic polarity. Not an electric one.
They are both the movement of electrons.
No, unless you are using fake physics.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hese things aren't happening.

Wait patiently, the Indians have. :twisted:
Care to give a real answer as to why reality doesn't show the presence of an external power source for the sun?
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby greenworm » Fri 04 Jan 2008, 21:39:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o, unless you are using fake physics.



Oh sorry, I didn't know electrons were fake physics. Well, some people like to stay in the dark, enjoy the view. We are done troll, go back into your hole.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby AWPrime » Fri 04 Jan 2008, 22:14:59

One can't ignore the fact that magnetic and electric polarity are different.

Ignoring that is faking physics.


And then we also have the side-effects of the EU theory that don't show up in reality.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby greenworm » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 01:19:34

Both are the result of moving electrons, are they not? What is fake about that? I explained it up above, maybe lay off the juice or something.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby AWPrime » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 09:19:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', 'B')oth are the result of moving electrons, are they not? What is fake about that? I explained it up above, maybe lay off the juice or something.
They are not the same thing, one can't simplify physics just to make ones interpretation work.

You understand that right?
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby greenworm » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 13:23:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou understand that right?


I should, I explained it above that it is their constraints that seperates them.


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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby AWPrime » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 14:27:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou understand that right?

I should, I explained it above that it is their constraints that seperates them.
And which post would that be?


ps. Do you really understand the difference?
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby greenworm » Sun 06 Jan 2008, 15:24:09

Yes, constraint, constraint, constraint. Maybe it will penetrate, $50 it won't.
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Re: The electric nature of the Universe

Unread postby AWPrime » Mon 07 Jan 2008, 21:21:12

A refresher is in order:

Why is it that the side-effects of by EU proposed sun power source aren't there/happening?
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