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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby Armageddon » Fri 04 Jan 2008, 21:43:06

Nice thread
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby threadbear » Fri 04 Jan 2008, 22:14:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'P')raying mantises eat the whole insect when they feed. What you are probably thinking of is how the females bite off the males' heads when they mate. It helps the males overcome their inhibitions. 8)
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I tried that with a guy. Proved to be the best 2 minutes of my life. Worth every year I spent in the slammer.
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Re: lol

Unread postby cube » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 03:21:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I')t's a translation of the original Aesops Fable - moiling... lol
That story sounds strangely similar to the Iraq war. :wink:
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby Ayame » Sat 05 Jan 2008, 04:51:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'I')N a field one summer’s day....


Yes, as shown in the story the mantis was standing longer than the ants; so expect resource wars to flourish, even if everyone goes down in the end :smile:
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby Battle_Scarred_Galactico » Tue 08 Jan 2008, 06:06:16

It would have been better if the mantis died from imperial overeach.
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby efarmer » Tue 08 Jan 2008, 21:56:27

What is the mantis' name? If I were a bull mantis I would be strongly attracted to a strong woman mantis like this with a bittersweet destiny and a bias for partying during the good times. I would be like a Leaonardo DiCaprio mantis dude and wear my Iron Mask so I wouldn't have to die just because I got "lucky" one time.

On second thought, I am an old dude and better just lay low. Could you post a picture of her anyway? (Unless I missed something and the mantis is not a girl.)
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby JohnLudi » Wed 09 Jan 2008, 13:52:46

Say...


if I eat the head of an accountant will that make me better at math?


If not, I'll just put it back where I found it...
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby kpeavey » Mon 04 Feb 2008, 14:04:40

One day the Devil decided Hell was getting too cluttered and he needed some fast cash to buy more souls. He gathered up a bunch of things, and held a yard sale. A customer was walking by and stopped in to take a look, maybe find a bargain.

There in front of him he saw all the Devil's tools. Disease, War, Vice... they were all there. He looked at the prices. He saw War was expensive, Death was cheap.

Finally he came upon a wedge shaped tool, clearly antiquated and well worn. The price tag was higher than anything else on the table.

"Why," he man asked, "is this old thing priced so high, when some of these other tools are in great shape and so cheap?"

The Devil looked up from his tabloid, "That tool is very special. I've used it many times over the ages and it never lets me down. With that tool, I can get to the very core of a man's soul when I can't touch him with anything else. That tool is Discouragement."
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby Aaron » Mon 04 Feb 2008, 14:14:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 'O')ne day the Devil decided Hell was getting too cluttered and he needed some fast cash to buy more souls. He gathered up a bunch of things, and held a yard sale. A customer was walking by and stopped in to take a look, maybe find a bargain.

There in front of him he saw all the Devil's tools. Disease, War, Vice... they were all there. He looked at the prices. He saw War was expensive, Death was cheap.

Finally he came upon a wedge shaped tool, clearly antiquated and well worn. The price tag was higher than anything else on the table.

"Why," he man asked, "is this old thing priced so high, when some of these other tools are in great shape and so cheap?"

The Devil looked up from his tabloid, "That tool is very special. I've used it many times over the ages and it never lets me down. With that tool, I can get to the very core of a man's soul when I can't touch him with anything else. That tool is Discouragement."


That's kinda what I meant when I wrote this post originally.

That others might adapt some fables in a peak oil context.

Nicely done.
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby killJOY » Mon 04 Feb 2008, 17:00:43

Wow. I use fables as a teaching tool in my writing class. Have done so for years.

I love the form: you can express sophisticated ideas in a tiny space, it you're good at it.

My students seem to think it's a simple children's genre; then I show them this one by Aesop:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aesop', 'A') viper finding itself in a smith's shop, spied a File, and attacked it, gnawing it as greedily as can be.

"You had best leave me be," said the File, "for I am one who, upon occasion, can bite iron and steel."

IT IS THE FATE OF ENVY TO ATTACK THOSE CHARACTERS THAT ARE SUPERIOR TO ITS MALICE.


Here's one shorty of my own:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Perfesser killJOY', ' ')"Friends!" a snake said to his comrades. "We must do something about the Lizards. They intend to surround us, attack us, and take our place. But they won't stop there. We all know how lizards are. They won't be satisfied until they've eaten every last one of our young. What are we waiting for?"

So the snakes, motivated to protect their interests, surrounded the Lizards and attacked them. They succeeded in driving the Lizards away.

But why they then proceeded to eat every lizard egg left behind is a mystery no one has been able to solve.

THE WORST ATROCITIES ARE COMMITTED IN THE NAME OF PREVENTING ATROCITY.


In the Doomer thread, I posted another story that adapts the St Matthew Island reindeer dieoff to the fable. It reads more like a parable, though:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ome reindeer, washed out to sea during a violent storm, find themselves castaway on an island. Glancing about, they discover that not only will they live, they will thrive; for this island is carpeted with lichens of the species the reindeer find most appetizing.

One buck with an antler broken off during the storm says, “Look up from your browsing. See the edges of the land? There is only sea every which way.”

“Keep your nose in the lichen like the rest of us,” the alpha buck states. “There are blessings here that can’t be counted.”

The herd increases until, in a few years, they number 2,000. Many new fawns cavort among the lichen-covered rocks. “How long can this go on?” the broken horn deer says. “We grow, but the edges of the land do not change.” The lead buck snorts, “You are the only one who is despondent. Stop disturbing our peace and eat.”

As the years go by, skirmishes break out over who has claim to what corner of the island. The elderly one-horned buck retreats to the poorest plot of lichen, lamenting: “O woe, woe! Our numbers can no longer be counted! But now the lichen can!”

The heir of the alpha buck becomes indignant. “We have listened to your complaints long enough.” Thereupon he thrashes the old one and leaves him for dead. He then turns his greedy fawns out into the meager plot of lichen.

The very next year, a large ship of men approaches the island. Gathering at the rail, the men are disgusted by what they see: a few emaciated deer picking among the rocks. The men count a mere two dozen of live deer—and upwards of six thousand bleached skeletons.

Seeing the elderly buck with one horn, the Captain says to his mate, “Go down and inquire out what happened.”

Down on the island, the first mate asks, “What has befallen you creatures?” But the old deer can only gape uncomprehendingly.

The mate reports back to his Captain that the animals are simply deranged. “We are infinitely blessed to be made in God’s image.”


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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby LoneSnark » Mon 04 Feb 2008, 18:43:12

^ An excellent fable for teaching "the tragedy of the commons".

You can continue it, with the humans coming ashore and dividing the land up among privately owned sheep ranches, and with self interest and skill discern a sustainable system of production, making sure to only put as many sheep upon the land as it can support. Explain that to do otherwise would overgraze the land and cause the entire herd to die off in time, to the financial ruin of its owners.

To those uninitiated, oil is not usually a tragedy of the commons since it is usually privately owned (federal lands being a counter-example).
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby PrairieMule » Tue 05 Feb 2008, 22:47:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', '
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The Devil looked up from his tabloid, "That tool is very special. I've used it many times over the ages and it never lets me down. With that tool, I can get to the very core of a man's soul when I can't touch him with anything else. That tool is Discouragement."


Not exactly a fable with animals but a righteous follow up to kpeavey's post.

Gabriel came to the Lord and said, "I have to talk to you. I have some Nigerians up here in Heaven who are causing some problems. They are swinging on the Pearly Gates, my horn is missing, and they've got Maggi sauce and Ogbono soup all over their robes; hamhocks, Isi-ewu, Cow-feet and Bokoto bones are all over the streets of Gold.

Some folk are walking around with one wing, they have been late taking their turn in keeping the stairway to heaven clean. There are soda bottles all over the clouds, some aren't even wearing their halos, saying it doesn't fit with their hairstyles."

The Lord said, "I made them special, as I did you, my angel. Heaven is home to all my children. If you really want to know about problems, let's call the Devil."

The Devil answered the phone, "Hello? What the...!, hold on one minute." The Devil returned to the phone and said, "Hello Lord, what can I do for you?"

The Lord replied, "Tell me what kind of problems you are having down there."

The Devil said, "Wait one minute," and put the Lord on hold.

After 5 minutes he returned to the phone, and said "Okay, I'm back. What was the question?"

The Lord said, "What kind of problems are you having down there?"

The Devil said, "Man, I don't belieee.....hold on, Lord". This time the Devil was gone for 15 minutes.

The Devil returned and said, "I'm sorry Lord, I can't talk right now. These Nigerians put the fire out, they bribed my demons for some air conditioning, and now selling pirated dvds directly to the dammed!"
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby skyemoor » Wed 06 Feb 2008, 23:17:44

There is a village tucked under the foot of a large cliff. One day, a geologist who has devoted all 35 years of his professional life to the study of such cliffs showed up, and spent the next 2 months studying the cliff, taking samples and reviewing existing geological data from prior State surveys. At the end of that time, he presented his findings at a town hall briefing, wherein he stated, "The cliff above the town is unstable, and will cascade down over the town, flattening every building. I don't know the exact time that it will collapse, but predict with some certainty that this will happen within the next 5 years, though it could be tomorrow. I've seen several such cliffs collapse and this cliff, while larger than the others, has the same predictable characteristics". He stayed for a question and answer period, and left the next day, promising to answer any questions that might arise via phone or email. A builder showed up later the same day, showing plans for a new expansion of the town, and brought in his confident, well-dressed geo-technical engineer, who dismissed the report of the geologist, claiming that the cliff would stand for generations. The builder pushed for rezoning rights to property he held, so that he could build a new subdivision within the fall area of the cliff. He promised bountiful, well-paying jobs to those who needed work and confidently guaranteed there would be continued prosperity for the town for the foreseeable future.

The townspeople were stunned and confused. Some began preparations to move, even though home values were volatile. Others put it off, thinking that there could be plenty of time, even if the geologist was right, and they could make some cash for a new truck, a new deck, and an HDTV in the meantime. Others simply could not believe that the cliff would fall; after all, it had stood there when their grandparents first settled the area, and surely it would continue to stand for generations to come.

(to be continued...)
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby Concerned » Mon 11 Feb 2008, 17:42:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LoneSnark', '^') An excellent fable for teaching "the tragedy of the commons".

You can continue it, with the humans coming ashore and dividing the land up among privately owned sheep ranches, and with self interest and skill discern a sustainable system of production, making sure to only put as many sheep upon the land as it can support. Explain that to do otherwise would overgraze the land and cause the entire herd to die off in time, to the financial ruin of its owners.

To those uninitiated, oil is not usually a tragedy of the commons since it is usually privately owned (federal lands being a counter-example).


Where do you put the bit about the growth based economy and increased year on year resource usage.

Population at 6.5 billion and growing, with carbon emissions so high that sea levels are likely to rise affecting tens of millions.

But wait you're after the "and everyone lived happily after" ending. So we'll just sweep that other nasty stuff under the carpet.
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby Subjectivist » Sun 10 Nov 2013, 16:13:59

Has anyone seen Aaron around here recently? In the old days he was top of my best poster list.
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Re: Aaron's Fables

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Sun 10 Nov 2013, 17:55:13

Talk about life imitating art check out sky's fable up a couple of slots. About 6 years ago I watched a news reporter covering a CA mud slide that ripped thru a hillside subdivision. Gouged a 30' gulley out of the hill. A geologist was pointing out to the reporter and several residents about a dozen layers of previous landslides that were exposed in the gulley. The reporter asked the residents if they were aware that their homes were built in in an area where landslides had been common for thousands of years. And one of the residents actually admitted knowing the potential existed but figured it wouldn't happen while he was living there.

Kinda like folks who build in areas designated by the Corps of Engineers as a flood plane and are than shocked when their homes get flooded. Human nature, eh?
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