[Ludi]

I'm officially giving up on looking for evidence that Peak Oil is no big deal and there are plenty of viable alternatives, etc etc. It's just getting really old and I'm tired.

Sorry if this was on-topic in the off-topic forum.

[BabyPeanut]

But you were so close!

[stu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m officially giving up on looking for evidence that Peak Oil is no big deal and there are plenty of viable alternatives, etc etc. It's just getting really old and I'm tired.

[Madpaddy]

I concur. Although I'm considering ignoring Peak Oil for the following reasons.

a. I spend too much time on this site anyway.

b. My family and friends think I'm nuts (mind you they thought this even before I started telling them they were all going to suffer and die when oil begins to run out).

c. I have prepared almost as much as I can without leaving my job and buying 20 acres in west cork to be near Colin Campbell.

d. I am becoming increasingly convinced that a major natural disaster in the form of earthquake, volcano, asteroid impact, catastrophic global warming or a combination of the above is about to happen and that PO is the least of our worries.

[Kingcoal]

What exactly are you giving up on? The Peak Oil reality is already here and we have been dealing with it for quite some time. It's a gradual effect, punctuated by crisis’s. Currently we have an administration in the Whitehouse that deals with Peak Oil very badly and the repercussions will be significant in years to come. However, that's no reason to give up hope. The world needs ideas more than ever.

[spear]

The million dollar question is which is coming first.

[linlithgowoil]

im always saying to myself - 'surely this cant be true - and, even if it is, surely something will come along...?'

i think that something wont come along, but i cant help having that niggly feeling in the back of my mind that this is another boy crying wolf story, and, somehow, everything will be ok, and i'll look a fool for talking about this.

i cant win really. if peak oil turns out to be as bad as i think it will, then ill be right, but then i might be dead as well. if nothing much happens, ill be a bit of a laughing stock.

still though, when you think logically, totally divorced from any concept of faith in technology, and you simply look at the hard figures, it cant be denied that it is coming. soon. how can an economist argue against a hubbert curve of production? we already have tons of examples in many countries of hubbert curves. why do they think this wont happen on a worldwide basis?

one good think about peak oil is that it will destroy classical economics, will end capitalism and will end consumerism. however, im not sure people will put up with this - many would rather die than lose all of that. just think of all those arseholes that jumped out of windows in the stock market crash in the depression. what a bunch of arseholes.

[Devil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('linlithgowoil', 'i')m always saying to myself - 'surely this cant be true - and, even if it is, surely something will come along...?'

i think that something wont come along, but i cant help having that niggly feeling in the back of my mind that this is another boy crying wolf story, and, somehow, everything will be ok, and i'll look a fool for talking about this.

i cant win really. if peak oil turns out to be as bad as i think it will, then ill be right, but then i might be dead as well. if nothing much happens, ill be a bit of a laughing stock.

still though, when you think logically, totally divorced from any concept of faith in technology, and you simply look at the hard figures, it cant be denied that it is coming. soon. how can an economist argue against a hubbert curve of production? we already have tons of examples in many countries of hubbert curves. why do they think this wont happen on a worldwide basis?

one good think about peak oil is that it will destroy classical economics, will end capitalism and will end consumerism. however, im not sure people will put up with this - many would rather die than lose all of that. just think of all those arseholes that jumped out of windows in the stock market crash in the depression. what a bunch of arseholes.

[0mar]

Something didn't come along for the Mayans or Easter Islanders or the Norse settled in North America.

Complex societies collapses, that's what they do over time. What we should be doing now is setting up a plan for a switch to a sustainable society.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

I keep wondering if the 144,000 the Christians say will survive beyond to create heaven on earth in the book of revelations are the Peak Oilers.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'I') concur. Although I'm considering ignoring Peak Oil for the following reasons.

a. I spend too much time on this site anyway.

b. My family and friends think I'm nuts (mind you they thought this even before I started telling them they were all going to suffer and die when oil begins to run out).

c. I have prepared almost as much as I can without leaving my job and buying 20 acres in west cork to be near Colin Campbell.

d. I am becoming increasingly convinced that a major natural disaster in the form of earthquake, volcano, asteroid impact, catastrophic global warming or a combination of the above is about to happen and that PO is the least of our worries.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Madpaddy', 'I') concur. Although I'm considering ignoring Peak Oil for the following reasons.

a. I spend too much time on this site anyway.

b. My family and friends think I'm nuts (mind you they thought this even before I started telling them they were all going to suffer and die when oil begins to run out).

c. I have prepared almost as much as I can without leaving my job and buying 20 acres in west cork to be near Colin Campbell.

d. I am becoming increasingly convinced that a major natural disaster in the form of earthquake, volcano, asteroid impact, catastrophic global warming or a combination of the above is about to happen and that PO is the least of our worries.

[TrueKaiser]

so the choice is to either go out with either a wimper or a bang?

side note: first post made on a realy alternative browser.
w3m

[Madpaddy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')re you a all or nothing full speed ahead balls to the wall type like me? In the meantime, got any interesting dreams for interpretation, free of charge?

[TrueKaiser]

reminds me of the speach the presedent made in the movie id4.
went along the lines of;
we cannot go quietly into the night, we cannot give up without a fight.