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real reason for high price of oil

Postby charliehelyes » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:41:08

Oil is sold in barrels, so that is two components the actual barrel made of iron and oil. So lets say oil costs $80 and a barrel costs $20 that means oil costs $100 a barrel the price of iron has increased year on year this has led to the increase of the cost of a barrel of oil not just the oil price.
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby gnm » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:44:56

:roll:

I can assure you that the holds of oil tankers are not stuffed with barrels....

While iron has gone up (it takes a lot of energy to produce) it is an insignificant portion of a "barrel" of oil's cost.

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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby emersonbiggins » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:45:52

AFAIK, "barrels" is the unit of measurement for oil, regardless of how its transported, the bulk of which is carried, in fact, by tankers and pipelines. The price of barrels has little to do with it, but the unit still remains an anachronistic throwback to the past.
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby HEADER_RACK » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:47:19

8O speachless......... just speachless
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby charliehelyes » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:47:31

im talking about barrels of oil not oil transported in other ways. It would be breach of contract if you bought 1000 barrels of oil and didnt get the barrels
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby emersonbiggins » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:50:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliehelyes', 'i')m talking about barrels of oil not oil transported in other ways. It would be breach of contract if you bought 1000 barrels of oil and didnt get the barrels


Again, "barrels" is the unit of measurement.

To illustrate the concept, if you buy 10 gallons of gasoline at your local filling station, do you reasonably expect to receive each gallon in a red plastic container?

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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby HEADER_RACK » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:50:50

8O It doesn't stop.....words escape me
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby charliehelyes » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:51:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliehelyes', 'i')m talking about barrels of oil not oil transported in other ways. It would be breach of contract if you bought 1000 barrels of oil and didnt get the barrels


Again, "barrels" is the unit of measurement.

To illustrate the concept, if you buy 10 gallons of gasoline at your local filling station, do you reasonably expect to receive them in red plastic containers?

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no but gasoline isnt called containers of gas a gallon isnt a name of a container.
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby LoneSnark » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:52:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i')m talking about barrels of oil not oil transported in other ways. It would be breach of contract if you bought 1000 barrels of oil and didnt get the barrels

You obviously have not read the contract.
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby emersonbiggins » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:54:27

You see, this is the problem we encounter when words have multiple definitions.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'b')ar·rel
–noun

1. a cylindrical wooden container with slightly bulging sides made of staves hooped together, and with flat, parallel ends.

2. the quantity that such a vessel of some standard size can hold: for most liquids, 311/2 U.S. gallons (119 L); for petroleum, 42 U.S. gallons (159 L); for dry materials, 105 U.S. dry quarts (115 L). Abbreviation: bbl


OP is convinced that oil is sold in [an iron variant of] definition #1, when in fact it is sold in definition #2.
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby charliehelyes » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:54:30

come on you lot need to stop and think for a second i mean geez this is meant to be a forum of experts havent any of you seen a oil documentary what do you see loads of oil spilled on the ground in no container of actual real soild iron barrels of oil
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby wisconsin_cur » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:54:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliehelyes', 'i')m talking about barrels of oil not oil transported in other ways. It would be breach of contract if you bought 1000 barrels of oil and didnt get the barrels


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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby charliehelyes » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:58:21

very funny so you are saying no oil is sold in barrels? so what are the barrels of oil you see on tv hanging around oil refineries scotch mist?
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby dinopello » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:59:50

Don't eat any cakes baked by charlie, it is likely to contain baked in cups and teaspoons that you might break your teeth on.
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby charliehelyes » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 16:01:23

for example when you buy a can of pepsi you pay for the can and pepsi when you pay for a barrel you pay for the barrel and the oil
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby gnm » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 16:05:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliehelyes', 'c')ome on you lot need to stop and think for a second i mean geez this is meant to be a forum of experts havent any of you seen a oil documentary what do you see loads of oil spilled on the ground in no container of actual real soild iron barrels of oil


8O

Yes, I have seen loads of oil spilled on the ground from a freighter tank, or a semi trailer tank, and other similar transport tanks. None of which were a barrel. Besides I think most steel barrels produced today are actually 50 gallons. At least what mechanics buy grease, paint thinner and such in...

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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby gnm » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 16:07:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliehelyes', 'f')or example when you buy a can of pepsi you pay for the can and pepsi when you pay for a barrel you pay for the barrel and the oil


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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby charliehelyes » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 16:08:17

so your saying packaging doesnt add to the price of a product?
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby basil_hayden » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 16:09:47

I nominate this thread as the most insightful for 2008.
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Re: real reason for high price of oil

Postby dhfenton » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 16:11:24

Wow those metal barrels must become a real problem when they stuck in a pipeline.
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