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the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby notwithmeyouwont » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 12:59:53

The following article shows clearly that we are just weeks away from collapse and destruction of the planet. It also shows what is really happening behind the scenes and what we could do to save our world the last minute of our time.
Be carefull tho, this is only for those who dare face reality and see the truth. It will no doubt shake your world and change your forever.

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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby lionstone » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 13:12:08

:x Dork! :x
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby notwithmeyouwont » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 13:20:53

did you even bother to read the entire article???
and a dorky new year to you too :)
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby lionstone » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 13:31:18

Did you read it?
You want to expand on Some of what you read?
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby kpeavey » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 13:56:53

sophistry
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever."
-George Orwell, 1984
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twenty centuries of stony sleep were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, and what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
-George Yeats
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby notwithmeyouwont » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 14:25:13

Ah well, didnt expect anything more form an American
I mean this entire truth as described there must sound like horror to you christianfundamnetalist fascists up there
(not meaning the good ones!)

anyway - free to read an by all means don;t if you can;t bare the truth
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby clueless » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 14:25:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('notwithmeyouwont', 'T')he following article shows clearly that we are just weeks away from collapse and destruction of the planet. It also shows what is really happening behind the scenes and what we could do to save our world the last minute of our time.
Be carefull tho, this is only for those who dare face reality and see the truth. It will no doubt shake your world and change your forever.

link

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I am a Christian and want to take the time to say that there are Christians in the world that have some connection with reality (unlike this deluded moron)...

Please do not stereotype Christians with people like this guy...
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby notwithmeyouwont » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 14:27:06

dear deluded clueless, I am all BUT christian
find it an offense that you even suggest me being one
you take that back!
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby clueless » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 14:33:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('notwithmeyouwont', 'd')ear deluded clueless, I am all BUT christian
find it an offense that you even suggest me being one
you take that back!


:lol:

See you on the funny farm buddy.....
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby vfr » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 14:39:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('notwithmeyouwont', 'T')he following article shows clearly that we are just weeks away from collapse and destruction of the planet. It also shows what is really happening behind the scenes and what we could do to save our world the last minute of our time.
Be carefull tho, this is only for those who dare face reality and see the truth. It will no doubt shake your world and change your forever.

link





The problem with always going back to the bible for the last word is this.

The bible is not the Word of God, but the word of man.

And the only thing that confirms the bible, is the bible, which is not a confirmation.

We can say the same arguments for the Qur·’an or the Book of Mormons...they must all be true because they say they are true.

See:

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/ ... opic=318.0

May I be so bold to suggest that you all drop the pretense and lies that you have been grasping onto for entire life and rebuild your life through a foundation of truth and testing and regenerate yourselves into a truth based agnostic freethinker?

We must also be careful with putting words in the mouth of Jesus as many Christians like to do

After all no one that ever wrote about Jesus ever met Jesus and it is ALL heresy.

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/ ... opic=470.0

It may take time, but you will be successful at finding truth if you try.

My own journey leaving monotheism was a long one.

I was Catholic for 50 years and am now a freethinking agnostic.

It all started for me many years ago when an ex-Krishna / Wicca massage lady told me that Jesus was not born on December 25 and the Christians adopted that day to steal it away from the pagans holiday. Then she told be it was the same with Halloween.

A few years later I found out that the gospels were not written by the apostles or men that even knew Jesus.

Then I came across Freke's book 'The Jesus Mysteries.' I started to study the beginnings of Christianity and how the Nicene council was nothing more than a political convention to find out who had the best spin on Jesus.

I wrote to a few professors such Bart D. Ehrman and others asking about The Jesus Mysteries. Their reply was it wasn't worth reading or just nonsense.

Relieved that such talk was hogwash, I drifted back to religion for some time until the next crack showed up at my door.

I was on a Buddhist forum eSangha (where I was eventually banned) and the discussion turned to Jesus. Someone mentioned the 'Jesus Never Existed' website and then this forum came about so I joined.

Then talked with an ex-rabbi dizax that guided me into more detailed biblical study.

Meeting that ex-rabbi was a major turning point in my life of religious beliefs, as I had never bothered to 'really' study what the foundation of monotheism was based on. I only bought the religious hype and did not know the facts.

Then one day read in the news that the church abolishes limbo. This did not go well with the concept of the truth is that which does not change.

Then watched some shows on the History Channel about religion that gave me more insight by exposing the lies.

I talked with some Christian members at the forums.

Sometimes their argument's were really insane. One Christian argued that the ancient coal and fossils were planted by the devil to trick us so we would not believe in God and go to hell.

Other were smarter and less extreme. One in particular was most knowledgeable. He said the bible was the perfect word of God EXCEPT the creation story which he viewed as myth.

Well, if we start to pick and choose what is real or lies in the bible...where does it end?

I started to talk with many atheists and listened to their stories. All good questions they proposed and the theists could never begin to answer them.

I sated listening to some of Ken Humphrey's programs:

http://jesusneverexisted.com/ken-Alchemy.mp3

short link

http://jesusneverexisted.com/kenwfm.mp3

As I continued to study religion and the bible in particular, I could see very clearly now that all religion is man made and flavored with the ego's of men.

That was my day on enlightenment...now it is your turn my friend.

And after about 7 years of developing cracks in my Catholic foundations, I decided that I would make a change in my way of life, sided on the path of truth and left the church evolving into a truth based Agnostic Freethinker.

I still use many tools from spiritual as well as religious sources.

If the tool can be tested for truth and does not require faith, then I make use of it if it promotes inner peace. (I should say it does take 'faith to test' sometimes, but once you start the test, the need for faith evaporates.)

see:

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/ ... ?topic=4.0





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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby clueless » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 14:42:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lionstone', 'D')id you read it?
You want to expand on Some of what you read?


He wrote it.. And by the things he references it makes him sound like a Christian/Superpatriot/911 conspiricy nut...Kind of a Green Alex Jones, so to speak..

He references the book of Revelations (which shows his mental capacity bacause he can't even spell it) , talks about the "Prince of Persia" etc.

Sadly though, this guy is a reflection of the general public...Which is Clueless.
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby billg » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 14:43:36

I read the article. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts but I don't think this post should be in "Planning For The Future". Better to put it in the Open Forum.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his article will change your entire world. This article will change the entire way you look at life. This article will explain heaven and hell, love and war, God and aliens and every possible question you have ever had. It will change you forever. It can bring you hope or it can totally destroy your life. And it will probably kill me soon.


Sorry...but it didn't change anything. I have my own views about all these subjects. Perhaps, it is somewhat delusional to believe that your personal insights/contemplations can change someone else's "entire world".

It's not like anybody has a monopoly on truth...however you may define it. There are about as many definitions of the truth as there are people on this planet.
"It is no measure of health to be deemed sane in an insane society" J. Krishnamurti

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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby basil_hayden » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 15:12:47

Lay off the hot wings before bedtime and everything will be alright.
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby clueless » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 15:23:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vfr', 'T')he problem with always going back to the bible for the last word is this.

The bible is not the Word of God, but the word of man.

{Excess quotation deleted per CoC - TheTurtle}


That is the beauty of the information age....You can find anything you want on the internet and believe it.

You are actually incorrect on many points, Christmas has never been acknowledged as the actual birthday of Christ...Matthew and John were written by Matthew and John, Luke was an Historian, and Mark was written by Mark, but was from Peter.

And Coal, Oil and Gas are a result of a global catastrophe in which thousands of years of carbon was buried (like the Genesis flood) - You can find hundreds of Christian and non-Christian scientists that validate this...Like Robert Jastrow (director of NASA Goddard flight center)...

And by your line of reasoning nothing is knowable, and all things require faith (which I agree with). But the reality is, the only truth you have is the one you invent, whereas my truth comes from the supreme being, which I accept by faith...

And one more thing....Catholicism is, always was and always will be a Cult. It kind of surprises me that you would use your background in Catholicism as something that gives you credibility - from those great guys that rape little boys and sell indugences.

Give me a break.
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby bobaloo » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 17:39:32

I read the article.

It reminds me of why I haven't taken acid in 20 years, even though I used to love it. It has very effective way of turning off your bullshit filter. That can be a good thing, allowing you to see through the cultural programming, but it also lets in all sorts of other things.
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby Ferretlover » Wed 02 Jan 2008, 19:03:39

Oh, dear.
The only thing worse than a twelve year old posting here is a twelve year old with religious fantasies!
"Open the gates of hell!" ~Morgan Freeman's character in the movie, Olympus Has Fallen.
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Re: the end of the world and who gets to survive

Unread postby bodigami » Thu 03 Jan 2008, 15:55:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vfr', '(')...)
I was on a Buddhist forum eSangha (where I was eventually banned) and the discussion turned to Jesus. Someone mentioned the 'Jesus Never Existed' website and then this forum came about so I joined.
(...)


e-sangha moderators are dogmatic and ban a lot of people for non-comformity. e-sangha gives buddhists bad reputation. please, don't make this first encounter with the sangha a frustration.

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