[ColossalContrarian]

I’m pretty sure I would be considered a Doomer. Like so many here I see a slow motion train wreck occurring and the people I’m surrounded by party on relentlessly. I don’t want the party to end either. I just know it has to. I don’t want people to suffer and die but I know this will happen. I hate being obsessed by the negativity in the world but it’s like my eyes are open now and I can’t close them. I realize that a major paradigm shift needs to happen and I’m of the realistic view that the only way this will happen is through some sort of doomer scenario. I don’t want this to happen.

So what do you call someone who wants the paradigm shift to happen without any doomer scenerios occurring?

[Ayoob]

Hippie?

[leduck]

Deeply intune with the world as it truely is -- that's what you are. I think it's sad to see so many people who know about peak oil and natural gas convinced that someone will find the magic bullit. Even if someone did find a highly dense new energy form -- that isn't a battery but actually a primary energy source, that would not solve the problem of growth. The combination of the population j-curve and depletion bell-curves while living on a ball are the root of the problem leading to this coming perfect storm, whether it be a gradual decline or outright collapse (even if there is no collapse, it has to stabalize or fall depending on what the actual carrying capacity really is). Until we deal with the root cause of all our problems, tinkering with solutions to peak oil or glabal warming or other envirnmental issues will not make much of a difference. Unfortunately, it's unlikely most people peak oil aware will get it until it's too late.

[leduck]

of course i'm in a really bad mood because the city of hope bumped off my father 2 years ago yesterday by slitting his colon causing sepsis.

[Revi]

I am the same way. It's like being some kind of old testament prophet. I start to talk to people and end up talking about peak oil. They usually don't want to continue the conversation, so I try to talk about something else.

I prepare for it every day somehow. Most others aren't aware of the problem and don't like being told anything about it. It's enough to turn you into a hard crash doomer.

Heating oil at $3.28 is getting everyone's attention around here now, though. It will take some kind of an oil shock to get most people to do something.

[ColossalContrarian]

This is from another thread and I believe efarmer coined the term…

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')I am not a doomer but am currently a gloomer instead. I think that the solutions to the systemic problems at hand will be an infinite number of personal, local, and regional workarounds. Of the subset of people aware of such things and paying attention, I am startled that so many are thinking a technical miracle is going to rescue them. Popular Science was a magazine created for the folks that soaked up know how, ideas, and got their hands dirty and did things, now it seems to cater more to people who are waiting for
miracles to lull them back to sleep.

[stepka]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'o')f course i'm in a really bad mood because the city of hope bumped off my father 2 years ago yesterday by slitting his colon causing sepsis.