[Andrew_S]

Nothing new to us, but it's in the Small Town Papers News Service. Last three paragraphs of the article:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hese prospects are hard for us to face. A member of an informal Seattle reading club formed to investigate peak oil told a news reporter that several others have dropped out of the group. “Once people have assimilated the idea that peak oil is imminent, they start to go through the stages of grief, just like a loved one has died. All of a sudden there’s denial, and then bargaining, anger and despair, and finally there’s an acceptance. But that’s never a happy acceptance. It’s more pragmatic, but the depression is there.”

We don’t want to face these issues and we don’t need to, especially with such a large menu of distractions available to us. We can travel, build things, or just go shopping. Unfortunately, almost all these escapes are dependent upon oil, underlining the inescapable nature of our dilemma.

There are personal as well as institutional reasons for ignoring or denying global warming and peak oil. On January 10 the Pencil Warrior will discuss possible technological alternatives, why they won’t save us, and the only true solutions.

[dsula]

The day I learned about PO and that it is imminent was one of my happiest day. I finally knew that the consumerism will come to an end. The cheap chineese trash won' be seen anymore in stores around here. And most probably most of those big box stores will be gone, too. Life will finally return to "normal".
And with some luck I'm here to witness it all. YEAH !!!!

[Andrew_S]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'T')he day I learned about PO and that it is imminent was one of my happiest day. I finally knew that the consumerism will come to an end. The cheap chineese trash won' be seen anymore in stores around here. And most probably most of those big box stores will be gone, too. Life will finally return to "normal".
And with some luck I'm here to witness it all. YEAH !!!!

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Andrew_S', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'T')he day I learned about PO and that it is imminent was one of my happiest day. I finally knew that the consumerism will come to an end. The cheap chineese trash won' be seen anymore in stores around here. And most probably most of those big box stores will be gone, too. Life will finally return to "normal".
And with some luck I'm here to witness it all. YEAH !!!!

[Ache]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Andrew_S', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'T')he day I learned about PO and that it is imminent was one of my happiest day. I finally knew that the consumerism will come to an end. The cheap chineese trash won' be seen anymore in stores around here. And most probably most of those big box stores will be gone, too. Life will finally return to "normal".
And with some luck I'm here to witness it all. YEAH !!!!

[Oil-Finder]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'T')he day I learned about PO and that it is imminent was one of my happiest day. I finally knew that the consumerism will come to an end. The cheap chineese trash won' be seen anymore in stores around here. And most probably most of those big box stores will be gone, too. Life will finally return to "normal".
And with some luck I'm here to witness it all. YEAH !!!!

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', 'T')his - and some of the other responses here - are yet more evidence that many, if not most, peak oilers believe in peak oil not because they actually care about whether oil production is about to peak, but because they want it to peak. You don't actually care about how much oil is left in the ground, you simply want us to stop using it as a means to another end.

[Oil-Finder]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', 'T')his - and some of the other responses here - are yet more evidence that many, if not most, peak oilers believe in peak oil not because they actually care about whether oil production is about to peak, but because they want it to peak. You don't actually care about how much oil is left in the ground, you simply want us to stop using it as a means to another end.

[jedinvest]

Oil Finder wrote:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m sorry, but that's what my own observations are.

[Oil-Finder]

^
I'm familiar with the song.

But that was a rather pointless post.

[Concerned]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dsula', 'T')he day I learned about PO and that it is imminent was one of my happiest day. I finally knew that the consumerism will come to an end. The cheap chineese trash won' be seen anymore in stores around here. And most probably most of those big box stores will be gone, too. Life will finally return to "normal".
And with some luck I'm here to witness it all. YEAH !!!!

[Oil-Finder]

^
As I've said in other posts, I actually don't mind if people come right out and say they don't want us to use more oil. I've got no problem with that. But I find it dishonest to use peak oil as a guise for some other belief, such as wanting modern civilization to come crashing to a halt, or wanting us to stop polluting the air, etc.

The folks who want civilization to come crashing to a halt should just say so. They don't actually care how much oil is left in the ground, they just hope we can never get to it all because that would be a good impetus for civilization to come crashing to a halt. Since they don't actually care about how much oil is left in the ground, why do they care about peak oil? It's akin to a person who goes to church but does not actually care about the religion.

[tecumseh]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', '^')
As I've said in other posts, I actually don't mind if people come right out and say they don't want us to use more oil. I've got no problem with that. But I find it dishonest to use peak oil as a guise for some other belief, such as wanting modern civilization to come crashing to a halt, or wanting us to stop polluting the air, etc.

The folks who want civilization to come crashing to a halt should just say so. They don't actually care how much oil is left in the ground, they just hope we can never get to it all because that would be a good impetus for civilization to come crashing to a halt. Since they don't actually care about how much oil is left in the ground, why do they care about peak oil? It's akin to a person who goes to church but does not actually care about the religion.

[Andrew_S]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', '
')The folks who want civilization to come crashing to a halt should just say so.

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tecumseh', '
')So, awareness of PO putting an end to this madness does have a small silver lining for people like me, but this comes at a great cost. I was completely flabbergasted when I learned how dependent the green revolution was on fossil fuels. Now the new picture has us (and certainly our kids) in an overshoot situation.

So it's kinda like PO is a cure for an ill, but that ill is like a cancer and the cure will be like chemotherapy.....or die-off. It's not nice at all being painted into a corner with the rest of humanity by a die-off scenario. But we must live for the moment and have a gallows sense of humor about things while preparing for what we can.

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oil-Finder', '^')
As I've said in other posts, I actually don't mind if people come right out and say they don't want us to use more oil. I've got no problem with that. But I find it dishonest to use peak oil as a guise for some other belief, such as wanting modern civilization to come crashing to a halt, or wanting us to stop polluting the air, etc.

[vision-master]

I can't wait untill we see the impacts of Peak Oil. Huh?

Anyone who welcomes the idea is in denial of future unfolding events.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedinvest', 'W')ell, we are certainly amused by the prospects, to say the least.

[dsula]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jedinvest', 'W')ell, we are certainly amused by the prospects, to say the least.

[vision-master]

Almost everyone will be effected by PO. You little smug farmers that think you got the system beat don't understand the full impact of PO.