[pedalling_faster]

i have a feeling this is what some parts of America will be like and maybe are like.

http://forum.surfermag.com/forum/showfl ... er=1282166

"Christopher and Debra, along with their 16-year-old son and 21-year-old daughter, were returning home from Los Cabos about 1 a.m. after participating in the Baja 1000. The family had driven the length of the peninsula many times, so when the siren blared behind them as they entered Tijuana, they thought nothing of it.

"We weren't concerned at all. . . . You kind of expect it. It's part of the culture," Debra said.

Within seconds, about 10 men spilled out of two cars, she said. Five jumped in their 2007 Ford F-250 and pointed guns at their heads. Themendrove the car into the hills, ordering the family to keep their heads down.

The men stopped in an isolated area and started stealing everything they could: watches, bracelets, $1,100 in cash, Debra's wedding ring. Other men tore out the toolbox in the truck bed and rummaged through the 27-foot trailer.

One man, speaking perfect English, told them to kneel. Their son was singled out for rough treatment, Debra said. "They shoved his face in the dirt. I thought he was going to get executed right there."

Debra crawled over and covered her son with her body. "He was crying, and I was crying. I told him I loved him. He told me he loved me," she said. The men huddled the family together and threw two sleeping bags at them. Then they sped off with the truck and trailer. Shivering from cold and fright, the Halls made their way down the dark, barren hills above the beach.

When they walked toward a light at a construction site, a man -- possibly a security guard -- fired two shots, Debra said. They eventually made it into a neighborhood and rang doorbells until a woman answered and phoned the police.

The police, whom Debra said were attentive and "very nice," drove them to the border and hugged them. The family walked up to the border crossing at San Ysidro with only their flip-flops and the clothes on their backs. A customs inspector let them in the country without their identification, she said."

that's not the worst part of the news reported in the article.

[Eli]

Yeah it doesn't take much for Mexico to become an absolute hell hole.

Think how it will be in a few years when they are a net oil importer, how is that going to work for them?

[frankthetank]

I've been to Southern CA once and during that 2 week trip we went down to Ensenada. All i remember is eating at a pizza place and watching couple of Mexicans drive off in a little truck with the alarm blaring (stealing it). Also remember the shanty towns in Tijuana... It was a real eye opener for someone from middle America. My sister lived down there (Wrightwood) for about 10 years and came back.