[bonjaski]

Effect of pluginhybrids with 90km range on oil consumption in Germany http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/26/26669/1.html

to keep it short:
if every car would be a plugin hybrid with a 90km electric only range, oil consumption in the transport sector of germany could be halved and germany needs to consume only 10% more electricity;

to keep the cost at todays levels (europe levels, which are 1,5-2 times as much then those in USA), the cost of Li accumulators has to be halved; (industry is even promising more)

the study also says, that the step to 100% electric cars would be more difficult,
{in my opinion this isn't needed, since this little bit of oil could be replaced by biofuels, synthetic fuels;}

to keep it short, it really seems that individual mobility will be affordable at todays levels even without oil; the study itself is good, our group did some verifications and we didn't find real weak points

[auscanman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bonjaski', 'E')ffect of pluginhybrids with 90km range on oil consumption in Germany

http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/26/26669/1.html

to keep it short:

if every car would be a plugin hybrid with a 90km electric only range, oil consumption in the transport sector of germany could be halved and germany needs to consume only 10% more electricity;

to keep the cost at todays levels (europe levels, which are 1,5-2 times as much then those in USA), the cost of Li accumulators has to be halved; (industry is even promising more)

the study also says, that the step to 100% electric cars would be more difficult,
{in my opinion this isn't needed, since this little bit of oil could be replaced by biofuels, synthetic fuels;}

to keep it short, it really seems that individual mobility will be affordable at todays levels even without oil;


the stuy itself is good, our group did some verifications and we didn't find real weak points

[bonjaski]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I find it hard to believe that converting every car to a plug-in hybrid would only require Germany to produce 10% more electricity than it currently does.

[KillTheHumans]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bonjaski', '
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to keep it short, it really seems that individual mobility will be affordable at todays levels even without oil;

[Clouseau2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('auscanman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bonjaski', 'E')ffect of pluginhybrids with 90km range on oil consumption in Germany


The cost an availability of the material used in the battery is a very big problem. Industry might be promising to lower the cost, but they often fail to deliver on their promises! is there enough lithium/nickel or any other materials these batteries are made from to replace the conventional engine? If people started converting en masse then costs would surely rise

Another issue is the lifetime of these batteries, and how to dispose of them once they're knackered. I've heard that the Prius battery is basically dead after 130,000km, and that nobody knows how to dipose of the battery in an environmentally friendly way.

[h20]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bonjaski', 't')o keep it short, it really seems that individual mobility will be affordable at todays levels even without oil

[misterno]

90% of the growth of oil comsumption is projected to be from India and China

And I do not think you can force them to buy these expensive hybrids.

[Fabian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', '9')0% of the growth of oil comsumption is projected to be from India and China

And I do not think you can force them to buy these expensive hybrids.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fabian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', '9')0% of the growth of oil comsumption is projected to be from India and China

And I do not think you can force them to buy these expensive hybrids.

[mos6507]

I already think of electric cars as "personal trolleys". Instead of a constant supply of electricity coming through the rail, the power is accumulated when the car is stopped. At first obviously that means overnight charging. But creating a charging station infrastructure would be very easy, much easier than desigining a custom 3rd rail for EVs.