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Unread postby Andrew_S » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 17:45:52

Just thought I'd post this article about a strange modern wonder. The article linked has lots of nice pictures of the subterranean temples in an Italian hill.

[web]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=495538&in_page_id=1811[/web]

Amazing what people can do when they are inspired.
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Unread postby oswald622 » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 18:24:58

surely golem must have something to say on the matter...
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Unread postby Andrew_S » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 18:36:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oswald622', 's')urely golem must have something to say on the matter...

Yeah, I thought the same. :)
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Unread postby paimei01 » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 18:56:06

Who around here believes in Atlantis? I think it existed, it was an advanced civilization, as the creator of those temples describes them. It was destroyed in a flood somehow.

Here are flood myths from around the world, from Peru to China, Russia, India, North America, Northern Europe there is this similar myth about the world being destroyed in a flood :
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')akima: In early times, many people had gone to war with other tribes, but there were still some good people. One of the good men heard from the Land Above that a big water was coming. He told the other good people and decided they would make a dugout boat from the largest cedar they could find. Soon after the canoe was finished, the flood came, filling the valleys and covering the mountains. The bad people were drowned; the good people were saved in the boat. We don't know how long the flood stayed. The canoe can still be seen where it came down on Toppenish Ridge. The earth will be destroyed by another flood if people do wrong a second time.

Caddo: Four monsters grew large and powerful until they were high enough to touch the sky. One man heard a voice telling him to plant a hollow reed. He did so, and it quickly grew very big. He, his wife, and pairs of all good animals entered the reed. Waters rose to cover everything but the top of the reed and the heads of the monsters. Turtle destroyed the monsters by digging under them and uprooting them. The waters subsided, and winds dried the earth.

The bible myth is just the old hebrew myth, but because it's in he bible it's considered the "official" one
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Unread postby Andrew_S » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 19:11:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'W')ho around here believes in Atlantis? I think it existed, it was an advanced civilization, as the creator of those temples describes them. It was destroyed in a flood somehow.

As far as I know there's no geological evidence for a substantial island in the Atlantic Ocean (which is the general idea?). Isn't Atlantis based on some meagre references by Plato to a flooded civilization? Maybe some island in the Mediterranean was lost to an earthquake, from which the legend arose.
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Unread postby paimei01 » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 19:17:30

But do you agree that there must have been a giant flood, so people all over the world created myths about it? There are more things that make me think Atlantis - or however it was called that advanced civilization existed. Not just flood myths and Plato
Archaeological evidence: there are some strange objects discovered, and the pyramids - they say the pharaoh build them to be his tomb -no pharaoh was inside and not 1 single hieroglyph, unlike other tombs from The Valley of the Kings full of hieroglyphs. They say the other unsuccessful pyramids were built before the successful ones near Cairo, I say they were just trying to copy the originals
Maybe the researchers search in the wrong places, or try to fit everything to their view of history. Troy was just a legend, until some crazy guy decided to go dig for it
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Unread postby greenworm » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 19:23:22

Some postulate Greenland as the home to Atlantis, no evidence though. Others say Antartica, no evidence once again. I did read once that the red man traded with them, but once again no evidence.

Yes. There was a flood and soon there will be another. You see the eye of Ra up there, study it well, it has an allegorical meaning of a day to come.
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Unread postby Andrew_S » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 20:04:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'B')ut do you agree that there must have been a giant flood, so people all over the world created myths about it ?

I doubt whether the whole world flooded at once. Each legend is probably based on a local event. In the Middle East the flooding of the Black Sea might be the source of flood legends (it was land originally which probably flooded fairly quickly from the Mediterranean).
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', 'T')roy was just a legend, until some crazy guy decided to go dig for it

Yes, Troy is a good example of a legend based on a real historical event. I think most legends have some historical source, but are elaborated over subsequent generations.
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Unread postby Denny » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 20:16:41

One part of the story is disturbing. When something wondrous is discovered, like this, the government feels they own it.

What right did the police have to investigate this, unless the guy was tunneling under other people's land?
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 20:41:57

The Atlantis legend derives from Santorini, a volcanic island in the Aegean sea that exploded and sank into the sea about 3500 years ago. A destroyed Minoan city was discovered on the island. The eruption also generated a tsunami that wiped out Minoan cities in Crete and elsewhere. :-D
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Unread postby paimei01 » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 21:04:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Andrew_S', 'I') doubt whether the whole world flooded at once. Each legend is probably based on a local event. In the Middle East the flooding of the Black Sea might be the source of flood legends (it was land originally which probably flooded fairly quickly from the Mediterranean).

Read the myths, they are too similar. People are evil, some are warned and saved together with some animals. Look how far we got in 2000 years. Imagined how much could have happened in 100000 years.
I think that at some point there was this advanced civilization, destroyed, then people spread all over the world carrying the original story with them, then it got changed a little with time for every population
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Unread postby Andrew_S » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 21:11:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'O')ne part of the story is disturbing. When something wondrous is discovered, like this, the government feels they own it. What right did the police have to investigate this, unless the guy was tunneling under other people's land?

He didn't have planning permission. People who "own" land don't really own outright I suppose, what with property taxes and planning permission laws.
Luckily they gave planning permission retrospectively, but said dig no more.
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Unread postby Bas » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 23:07:12

Homepage of the temples

Homepage of the Damanhur "movement"..very interesting, and stunningly beautiful.
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Unread postby Twilight » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 23:47:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'W')hat right did the police have to investigate this, unless the guy was tunneling under other people's land?

Some countries require building sites to be registered with safety authorities and be subject to inspection. This is to make sure people do not expose workers or members of the public to unnecessary danger. Mining or tunneling does both. This can be a serious breach of criminal law. In the UK, they would be looking at jail time. And quite rightly too.
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Unread postby blukatzen » Sat 24 Nov 2007, 23:48:24

Raph..ahem..Golem..

I was going to send you this link last night. I thought you'd be intrested in HOW some of the rooms were built, and how their group perceives to work with some of the energies of the earth's ley lines.

Look in the one "Temple of the Spheres". They have done the walls/ceilings in 24-k gold leaf. They did this specifically as this room was supposed to be the "central nervous system" of the whole complex, where the group can send out healing thoughts, energies, etc. to the whole earth.

What *I* focused on when I read that was the link to your thread on the Pyramid and the model of how you think it looks like the Gold molecule! Syncronicities abound here folks! (and we know they are not really syncronicites, yes?) :lol:

I was just flabbergasted at this story! I had spoken to my husband to come over and take a look at this, and he said he was familiar with them long ago, as he had spoken to some folks at the Stelle Group here in Illinois and they told him of this project.
Google "Stelle, IL" and you will find out about that group. I was thinking about joining that group about 27 years ago or so..

At any rate, the rooms were so gorgeous. I was looking at the water temple, and when I fell asleep last night, I dreamt I was in a small beach house on a beautiful warm day, but the waves kept bringing in more water, more water, and a thunderous crash of water hit, a Tsunami hit with massive amounts of water. I was surrounded by a wave of crystal blue.....water....
Swirling around me. I did not drown however, but I was aware that I needed to get back to a safer place.
I was sad to leave my little beach house behind..

More water kept coming as each wave kept rolling in, didn't seem to stop.

What is your take on all of this Raph?


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Unread postby Andrew_S » Sun 25 Nov 2007, 09:05:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '[')url=http://www.thetemples.org/]Homepage of the temples[/url]

Homepage of the Damanhur "movement"

....very interesting, and stunningly beautiful.


Thanks for the links. The slide shows at the first look great.

I wonder whether this is only getting much international publicity now. Could be lots of tourist interest. Of course, they made it for their meditations so maybe don't want too many tourists.
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Unread postby Zardoz » Sun 25 Nov 2007, 20:41:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he Atlantis legend derives from Santorini, a volcanic island in the Aegean sea that exploded and sank into the sea about 3500 years ago. A destroyed Minoan city was discovered on the island. The eruption also generated a tsunami that wiped out Minoan cities in Crete and elsewhere.

Exactly, and The Great Flood myth grew out of this other natural disaster:

The flooding of The Black Sea

Granted, these events aren't nearly as much fun to think about as the crazy stuff that's been made up from them, but reality is virtually never as entertaining as fantasy, is it?
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Unread postby katkinkate » Sat 01 Dec 2007, 07:10:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('paimei01', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Andrew_S', '
')I doubt whether the whole world flooded at once. Each legend is probably based on a local event. In the Middle East the flooding of the Black Sea might be the source of flood legends (it was land originally which probably flooded fairly quickly from the Mediterranean).


Read the myths, they are too similar. People are evil, some are warned and saved together with some animals. Look how far we got in 2000 years. Imagined how much could have happened in 100000 years.
I think that at some point there was this advanced civilization, destroyed, then people spread all over the world carrying the original story with them, then it got changed a little with time for every population


Are the stories so similar because they all describe the same flooding event or alternatively, are they telling of the generic event of 'Flood' that has happened many times in many places, all from the same 'god-fearing', arrogant and paranoid with guilty conscience human viewpoint.

Oh, and the Temple to Humanity is totally gorgeous and an incredible achievement. I would love to see it one day in person. Thank you for showing us.
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Unread postby Madpaddy » Sat 01 Dec 2007, 07:31:53

Andrew_S wrote,

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') doubt whether the whole world flooded at once.


YET


Inspiring people. It is groups like this who will hopefully still be standing when TSHTF.
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Unread postby paimei01 » Sat 01 Dec 2007, 08:34:32

Why do we find flood myths in South America then ? And I am sure that you cannot disprove the existence of Atlantis, maybe they were a civilization as advanced as the romans or more advanced, but much older, and it was destroyed in a flood.
Explain these from the Mahabharata :

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana
hurled a single projectile charged with the power
of the Universe. An incandescent column of
smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with
all its splendor.

It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic
messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race
of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.

The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable.
Hair and nails fell out; Pottery broke without apparent cause,
and the birds turned white.

...After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected...
...to escape from this fire the soldiers threw
themselves in streams to wash themselves and their
equipment."
... so powerful that it could destroy the earth
in an instant A great soaring sound in smoke and flames
And on its sits death..."
The Ramayana


"Dense arrows of flame, like a great shower, issued
forth upon creation, encompassing the enemy...
A thick gloom swiftly settled upon the Pandava hosts.
All points of the compass were lost in darkness.
Fierce wind began to blow upward, showering dust and gravel.

Birds croaked madly... the very elements seemed disturbed.
The earth shook, scorched by the terrible violent heat of this weapon.
Elephants burst into flame and ran to and fro in a frenzy...
over a vast area, other animals crumpled to the ground and died.
From all points of the compass the arrows of flame rained
continuously and fiercely.



The Mahabharata


Why is there this rush to say "it could not have happened" ? Afraid of what "the others" could say about you ? Evil bunch these "others" are :)
Or maybe it's just the need for self security, to have a "base" , a clear history and everything

It costs me absolutely nothing to say "maybe ancient nuclear war did happen or maybe not, if I find more evidence I will know, until then I say I do not know"
We are talking about things that are ancient, they do not require quick decisions, they are not a matter of life and death, why this rush to decide about them ? Look at the legend of Troy, look at other "great scientific decisions" in history that turned out to be wrong
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