[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')snip]

And if you think that this subprime, inflationary, recessionary mess
is bad for us ordinary weenies out here in the real world, imagine the effect on tax revenues for all the spendthrift governments out there as a result of all those sales that didn't take place, and all those fees that were not paid, and all those fortunes that were not made, and thus all those taxes that were not collected.

And the thing that makes it all worse, so Very, Very Much, Much Worse (VVMMW) is that not only were grubby fortunes not being made nor taxes being paid, but these are losses, and all these losses will be netted against whatever pitiful little gains people managed to make! If any! And deducted against ordinary income if not!

And for years and years to come, the government will receive less tax revenue, as all of today's losses will be netted out against future gains or income until they are completely deducted by taxpayers!

For the American federal government, this is the Ultimate Triple
Whammy (UTW); not only are taxes not being collected now or future profits be taxed, but it comes at the same time as the rising social burden of taking care of the victims of inflation means a "need" for higher government spending!

And at a time when the federal government alone is already
deficit-spending US$500 billion a year, and the states are selling
bonds for a few hundred billions of spending-dollars a year!

[snip]

Using a rate of inflation calculated the old-fashioned way, as by John Williams at his shadowstats. com site, instead of the lying, distorted way that Greenspan and Boskin created to do it, Mr Conrad has confirmed with his own calculations that real, in-your-face, pay-me-now, price-rising inflation is actually running at or above 10%.

[snip]

[Ayame]

That's what I love the Mogambo Guru, he doesn't fear saying that the Government lies over and over again to knock it into people's thick skulls.

I laugh at the sheeple on the tv here in the UK at the moment who look bewildered when told by reporters that the government agency hm revenue and customs lost confidential data of 25 million people in the post and then asked what they think about it. It's as if they believe that the government is infallible and are shocked to learn that it's not so.

Won't they be shocked when their beloved government starts herding them into work camps after shtf.

[POAlex]

Death is just the beginning.

Then what?

[venky]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', 'D')eath is just the beginning.

Then what?

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('venky', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', 'D')eath is just the beginning.

Then what?

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '
')As opposed to those who Believe, right?

[Grifter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', '
')I laugh at the sheeple on the tv here in the UK at the moment who look bewildered when told by reporters that the government agency hm revenue and customs lost confidential data of 25 million people in the post and then asked what they think about it. It's as if they believe that the government is infallible and are shocked to learn that it's not so.

[jasonraymondson]

People are so stupid

[POAlex]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '
')As opposed to those who Believe, right?

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '
')As opposed to those who Believe, right?

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', '
')
Hi Narz, just a question for you.

Would you consider a judge to be vengeful when he passes sentence on a guilty criminal? That would be justice, would it not?

So why are you disputing God's justice? He must punish sin or else He would be corrupt.

Now, what if the judge were to step in and pay the fine for someone who hated him? Who would do that?

God has.

We broke His Law (Ten Commandments), He paid our fine of death on the cross. A priceless free gift.

That's God Almighty, whom I serve and love.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', 'H')i Narz, just a question for you.

Would you consider a judge to be vengeful when he passes sentence on a guilty criminal? That would be justice, would it not?

[POAlex]

Narz,

Here's what the Bible tells us.

God did not create this world this way, but when sin was brought in because of our disobiedence we've become separated. The world as we know it is fallen and cursed because of sin.

One thing I don't quite get is why would we worship the creation and not the Creator? Its like suggesting someone paint a great painting and put it in an art show. Then tell everyone walking past that they should compliment the painting for doing such a good job.
That makes no sense.

What makes sense is that we were made to have a relationship with God but our sin is getting in the way of that. Jesus is that bridge or mediator because He paid the fine for sin.

So Lighthouse, now to answer your question. It comes down to this. Who is Jesus Christ? Either He is who He said He is (God in the flesh) and He is the Saviour of the world or He isn't.

I know He is because I have experienced Him and have a personal testimony. We should be paying attention to what the Bible is telling us. Everything that is happening and will come to pass has been prophesized thousands of years ago.

This website breaks my heart because there is such Hope waiting there for so many hopeless people.

Alex

[topcat]

Since we are going into the God realm...

G-O-D spells God,
and backwards it spells D-O-G, which is dog,
and dog is man's best friend.

Go figure

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')Why not serve humanity & mother nature?

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', '.').. So Lighthouse, now to answer your question. It comes down to this. Who is Jesus Christ? Either He is who He said He is (God in the flesh) and He is the Saviour of the world or He isn't.

I know He is because I have experienced Him and have a personal testimony. We should be paying attention to what the Bible is telling us. Everything that is happening and will come to pass has been prophesized thousands of years ago ...

[Eli]

Lighthouse it is up to each individual to decide what the truth is, the choice of what to believe or not to believe is yours.

That really is what we all do.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat a piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, how
infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and
admirable, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like
a god!

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'L')ighthouse it is up to each individual to decide what the truth is, the choice of what to believe or not to believe is yours.

That really is what we all do.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat a piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, how
infinite in faculties, in form and moving how express and
admirable, in action how like an angel, in apprehension how like
a god!

[Eli]

Edit I didn't say all gods were man made.


that is up to you to decide.

I agree there is no way to prove anything. But even something like PO is hard to prove, there is an element of belief to everything in life.

I will say this though, I have examined the Quran I have read many Hadiths and looked at the life of Mohamed, how he lived and how he gained followers. I read the Sharia Law.

I have come to the firm conclusion that Mohamed was a man like any other he could be both cruel and kind, he said somethings that were wise and others that were just plain ignorant. He could be both greedy and generous. The words of the Koran are a step back for mankind. Justified killing in the name God, fighting other human beings to prove you are right, taxing people who do not believe as you do.

I don't hate Muslims but I do not like Islam, there is a lot of stuff that is just terrible about the religion and the Koran.

Christianity on the other hand would be great if people actually started doing what Jesus told them to do.

[roccman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', '
')
Christianity on the other hand would be great if people actually started doing what Jesus told them to do.