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Unread postby Waterthrush » Sat 17 Nov 2007, 11:38:27

The Financial Sense/Matt Simmons post on this forum refers to some politicians having peak oil awareness. But, to find a peak oil aware member of a group with even less reason to admit a peak is unusual. However, Warren Brown, who covers the automotive industry for the Washington Post, is indeed very conscious of the issue. I think it's only been for the past 2 years or so, though, that he has actively promoted it. In his November 16 regular online discussionhe came back again and again to the price of gasoline, such as in this exchange:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')arrisburg, Pa.: Good morning, Warren.

Thanks for taking my question. I'm looking at buying a 2005 Ford Mustang V-6 premiem. Are there any issues I should be concerned about before I buy?

Warren Brown: Yes, Harrisburg.

Crude oil prices have been floating around the $100 mark. Gasoline prices in the U.S. are escalating rapidly and are likely to remain high.

I don't have the 2005 Mustang's mpg's numbers here with me at the Millenium Hoangqiao Hotel here in Shanghai. But, assuming I'm recollecting correctly, the 2005 mpg numbers for the V6 Mustang are less than spectacular. You might want to consider that in a world where one city--here in Shanghai, for example--has a 20-million population, and where all or most of those people want the same things oil has given America. In short, the trejectory for oil demand is outstripping the trajectory for supply, which means permanently higher prices for gasoline in the United States, like it or not.


Considering that his livelihood is dependent on the automobile industry, I find his bluntness extraordinary. Most automobile writer/reviewers I read concentrate on "fun" driving experiences, "powerful" engines, "performance," "sleek styling," etc. etc.

Have any of you been reading automobile writers and blogs where peak oil is acknowledged?
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Unread postby whereagles » Sat 17 Nov 2007, 20:31:32

I post in 2 automobile blogs.

#1 is a normal petrolhead forum. People there blame high prices on oil companies gouging and demand government action by lowering taxes. Lolish, of course, but that's what most people think.

#2 is a hybrid vehicles forum. About 1/2 the people there are peak oil aware, but still believe "we'll manage some way out of the mess".

Automobile press around here is extremely ignorant of everything, including cars (!!!). They only say nice things of EVERY car model because they're dependant on the car companies ad money to stay profitable. For the journalists, "peak oil" is a new brand of detergent.
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Re: Automotive writers & bloggers

Unread postby Judgie » Sat 17 Nov 2007, 23:38:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Waterthrush', 'H')ave any of you been reading automobile writers and blogs where peak oil is acknowledged?

Australian Automotive enthusiast magazine "MOTOR" has actually published a series of articles covering Peak Oil this year. They were surpisingly objective and did not seek to dismiss the concept.
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Re: Automotive writers & bloggers

Unread postby cube » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 01:44:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Waterthrush', '.').. Most automobile writer/reviewers I read concentrate on "fun" driving experiences, "powerful" engines, "performance," "sleek styling," etc. etc.
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I always raise an eyebrow whenever anyone says:
"oh that car is so *fun* to drive".

my response:
"The speed limit is 65mph on the freeways so why would it be more *fun* then any other car?"

their response:
"dead silence" :roll:
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Re: Automotive writers & bloggers

Unread postby Starvid » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 03:51:54

Well, speed isn't what's fun. Acceleration is.
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Re: Automotive writers & bloggers

Unread postby whereagles » Sun 18 Nov 2007, 05:35:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Starvid', 'W')ell, speed isn't what's fun. Acceleration is.

That's not totally correct. Some people like the rush of driving at 250 km/h on a highway, dodging slower traffic. Of course, you can get arrested for that, but it requires tight vigilation to catch you. That might not always be the case.... I know it's not around here.. lol.

Still, a day at the track sure is funnier (did that once, with a kart).
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Re: Automotive writers & bloggers

Unread postby perdition79 » Mon 19 Nov 2007, 01:48:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Waterthrush', 'H')ave any of you been reading automobile writers and blogs where peak oil is acknowledged?


Autoweek has been skirting around the issue for about two years now, but they have never been straightforward about it. The editorial columns mention future gas crisis, the need for conservation, etc. Still, it's better than nothing.
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Re: Automotive writers & bloggers

Unread postby Lighthouse » Mon 19 Nov 2007, 04:44:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'm')y response: "The speed limit is 65mph on the freeways so why would it be more *fun* then any other car?"
their response: "dead silence" :roll:

What Speed Limit? ;)
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