[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EarthGamePlayer', 'N')ow a Category 5

This is going to be bad

[frankthetank]

Landfall is coming soon. Here is a link to the radar.

http://www.imd.gov.in/section/dwr/dynam ... ol-caz.htm

If they haven't started moving people, then i suspect death tolls will be huge.

[frankthetank]

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html

It has made landfall. Probably won't know the extent of destruction for some time. Looks like a 1000 fishermen are already missing.

[Andrew_S]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Scores dead in Bangladesh cyclone

At least 242 people have been reported dead after a powerful cyclone battered southern Bangladesh, levelling villages and uprooting trees.

Officials have warned that the death toll could rise and that the extent of the damage is still unclear.

Hundreds of thousands of people were evacuated or sought safe shelter before the storm hit the coast, but some were left behind.

The storm was weakening early Friday as it passed through the capital, Dhaka.

[skiwi]

The first report out I read had 1 killed then 28 then 200 now 600

Cyclone Sidr kills 600 in Bangladesh

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')haka - The International Red Cross says more than 600 people have died in Bangladesh as a result of Cyclone Sidr. Thousands more are missing and tens of thousands are homeless. The authorities fear the death toll could rise.

[Bas]

Those are very plenimary reports skiwi, but it seems they "dodged the bullet" because the storm directly hit in the sparsely populated "Sundarbans" in the southwest. A similar storm in 1991 that hit in the southeast ultimately resulted in almost 150,000 deaths. (strange how Westerners can't remember that)

[Andrew_S]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'A') similar storm in 1991 that hit in the southeast ultimately resulted in almost 150,000 deaths. (strange how Westerners can't remember that)

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Andrew_S', '
')
One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.
(Stalin quote, supposedly).

Callous but true. How many people die each day, every day? A lot.

How many non-Westerners remember? Are we to be held as guilty for everything? C'mon.

[EarthGamePlayer]

At least 1100 dead

Initial death tolls are unfortunately usually lower than the final count developing nations.

Have to love the elephant moving the bus though. Sign of things to come?

[Zardoz]

The 1970 Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) cyclone killed a minimum of 300,000. The actual total could possibly have been over a million. We westerners have now completely forgotten about it.

Wikipedia

The Pakistan Cyclone of 1970

They actually had two in 1991 that killed over 250,000 between them:

Killer storms

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'T')he 1970 Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) cyclone killed a minimum of 300,000. The actual total could possibly have been over a million. We westerners have now completely forgotten about it.

[hubbertspeak7777777]

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[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'T')he 1970 Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) cyclone killed a minimum of 300,000. The actual total could possibly have been over a million. We westerners have now completely forgotten about it.

Wikipedia

The Pakistan Cyclone of 1970

They actually had two in 1991 that killed over 250,000 between them:

Killer storms

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', '
')I'll drink to that. And what's with all these people getting their panties in a bunch over what your saying? Hundreds of thousands die everyday... yet we're supposed to shed tears over these douchebags?

And to all the crybabies who are nagging at jack: Boo fucking hoo. Get over it. We all gotta go someday, like it or not. Crying about it solves nothing.

[timbo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hubbertspeak7777777', '.')..And to all the crybabies who are nagging at jack: Boo fucking hoo. Get over it. We all gotta go someday, like it or not. Crying about it solves nothing.

[EarthGamePlayer]

Death toll at 1700 and rising

While I believe that the population of humans on earth is too large, I am disgusted by many of the posts on this thread.

Cheering at the deaths of other less fortunate is shallow, disrespectful and callus.

It's easy to be smug from our Western haven where it is safe and comfortable. Yet I would guess that if all of your friends and family were dead, and your house and all your post peak oil possessions were gone, you would no longer be cheering.

It is this very idea of apathy, ignorance, and lack of care about anything other than ourselves, that has helped get us to this state in the first place.

You may be peak aware, but I am ashamed to be associated with you not only as a "peaker" but as a human being.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EarthGamePlayer', 'C')heering at the deaths of other less fortunate is shallow, disrespectful and callus.

[DrBang]

There are some pretty strong opinions here. If I have stepped over the mark, could a moderator shoot me a message please.

I have spoken to many people who have been through terrible things. Vietnam Vets, peace keepers in Rwanda, a refugee from the Ethiopia/Eritrea massacres. They all follow the same patterns in behavior. I hold every single one of them in high regard and speak of them with respect.

They do not talk about their experiences. At all. The only things that can be learned from them of what they saw/did to survive is in what they don't say.

Some of the attitudes displayed in this thread I find highly telling and thoroughly reprehensible.

In some of the nastier Mad Max scenarios where gun fights happen and riots of people turn on each other have a colossal human cost, to all concerned. The people who brag about how well they are going to perform, better than everyone else may well be all talk as they have never seen such a circumstance.

If they did, they would not talk about it all with such glee.

IMO such people may have all the toys but not the mental strength to survive. Those toys will be confiscated when faced with large numbers of frightened, desperate people who will do anything to survive. The talk and wise arse jokes would quickly dry up due to shock. The real people who could actually do such things we never hear from in this manner. They watch, learn and quietly move on.

The problem of population overshoot is real an frankly the 'solutions' to it are not in us socially at this late stage. As such, certain decisions will be made for us due to circumstance and nature will take its course. This saddens me deeply. This doesn't change reality however.

To celebrate the demise of a region of heavily populated but poor people as a good thing is reprehensible. If we are right then one day this could be someone you care about in the same circumstance.

Personally, I have never killed anyone. I have never been part of an armed group defending/offending from another armed group. I have never had to fight for my own survival. Does this make me unprepared? Perhaps. That being said I value my humanity.

If ever find myself in such a circumstance (possible) and my actions/inactions cost me my life. So be it.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EarthGamePlayer', 'C')heering at the deaths of other less fortunate is shallow, disrespectful and callus.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DrBang', 'T')here are some pretty strong opinions here. If I have stepped over the mark, could a moderator shoot me a message please.