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THE National Public Radio (NPR) Thread (merged)

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Re: The genius of National Public Radio

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Mon 16 Apr 2007, 10:11:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', '.')..but it's far better than the OTHER crap.


I agree. Our local radio morons compete to see who can be the most flag-waving, kill'em all Limbaugh pretender.

I've personally known quite a few local market "radio personalities". Without exception they were the most shallow loud-mouthed buffoons you could imagine. When they had any, their college education consisted of memorizing local sports scores.

Think: Glenn Beck with less personality or intelligence and a penchant for cheap, stepped-on cocaine.
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NPR's Michael Krasney, Ph.D. pathetic on peak oil.

Unread postby Dvanharn » Tue 06 Nov 2007, 15:19:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Oil Prices -- The program discusses the recent spike in oil prices with guests including Severin Borenstein, E. T. Grether professor of business administration at the Haas School of Business at UC Berkeley, director of the UC Energy Institute and a research associate of the National Bureau of Economic Research; Joe Sparano, president of the Western States Petroleum Association; and David Sandalow, senior fellow at The Brookings Institution, former assistant secretary of state and senior director on the National Security Council staff, and author of the new book "Freedom from Oil."


This morning's "Forum" with Michael Krasny was a pathetic rehash of overly optimistic (just let us at the off-limits resources; Yergin is the best source for peak oil date estimates; there are all kinds of technical solutions, etc., etc.) Of course, when you consider his choice of "experts" for this edition of Forum discussing oil prices, it becomes obvious that the opinions of Simmons, Campbell, Laherrere, Deffeyes, etc. are of no interest to this crowd.

It seems that the MSM, even NPR, is still ignoring solid evidence that peak oil is likely a current event and not a future one.

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Re: NPR's Michael Krasney, Ph.D. pathetic on peak oil.

Unread postby IanC » Tue 06 Nov 2007, 19:25:42

Could this have something to do with
1. sponsorship and underwriting of the radio show or
2. the government, who foots most of the bill for NPR,not wanting NPR to do stories on PO.

I'm sure most of the people at NPR are very well aware of energy issues and may even be saavy on depletion. I doubt that they are willfully keeping this information off the airwaves. I'll bet if we follow the money (ALWAYS a good idea) we'll find no real enthusiasm for getting the truth about PO out to the public.

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Re: NPR's Michael Krasney, Ph.D. pathetic on peak oil.

Unread postby kjmclark » Tue 06 Nov 2007, 21:59:25

I gave up on donating to my local NPR stations when I realized that by
"listeners" they meant car commuters with radios. The whole "driveway moments" BS turned me off.

So, if you thought your primary audience is solo commuters, would you want to make them question their commute? I don't see that many of us cyclists or pedestrians (or even bus riders) listening to the radio on our way to work. We can't, with all of the motorists paying more attention to their radios than to the road.
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Re: NPR's Michael Krasney, Ph.D. pathetic on peak oil.

Unread postby IanC » Tue 06 Nov 2007, 23:39:03

kjm,

Great point. I hadn't thought of that. A lot of the liberal-guilt-ridden commuters already are rationalizing their commutes and consumptive lives. Why antagonize them. The Driveway Moments thing and the constant traffic updates also drive me crazy. Except for the fact that, as a bike commuter, I get a smug sense of satisfaction at being able to ignore them!

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Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby killJOY » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 19:17:47

Expletive deleted.? A story on oil prices, that non-entity, what's his name, Carl Casshole, asked some dude, an "analist" named Adam:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;So OPEC says there's plenty of reserves, so what's REALLY causing the high price of oil?"

Adam Expletive deleted says, "BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH, the problem isn't supply, there's plenty of supply, putting more oil on the market won't help." Expletives deleted.!!!!!!!
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby heroineworshipper » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 19:25:59

Mainstream media became worthless when they stopped covering McCain, completely.
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby joewp » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 19:28:03

No, they became worthless a long time before that, like in the 1970s or earlier.
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby mekrob » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 19:30:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('heroineworshipper', 'M')ainstream media became worthless when they stopped covering McCain, completely.


I'd have to disagree. They've been very worthwhile for those in charge in order to keep the people content and satisfied enough not to riot and revolt. They have plenty of worth, just not any for us.
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby killJOY » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 19:31:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o, they became worthless a long time before that

The only reason I can manage to hold back my VOMIT to listen is I really should listen to SOMETHING, and NPR has no commercials. Else, how would I know about the weather??? Look out the window?????
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby Homesteader » Fri 07 Mar 2008, 23:04:09

Yeah, the guys name was Adam Davidson. Spoke just like those brand new Harvard grads that did such a smooth job being completely wrong about where a piece of firewood came from.

The piece on NPR was pitiful, yet totally expected.
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby jedinvest » Sat 08 Mar 2008, 01:01:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o, they became worthless a long time before that
The only reason I can manage to hold back my VOMIT to listen is I really should listen to SOMETHING, and NPR has no commercials. Else, how would I know about the weather? Look out the window?????

You should be listening to Pacifica radio: Pacifica Radio I listen over the air, but it is streamed over the internet.

Even liberal media doesn't pay too much attention to peak oil as it is inconvenient for social justice as well. Still, far more interesting than that neutered NPR, which is sometimes OK late at night especially when they have the international news and spotlight pieces. :)
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 08 Mar 2008, 02:30:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'N')PR has no commercials.



The sponsors are announced at the beginning and end of shows on NPR all the time. THose are definitely commercials----they are shorter and not nearly as obnoxious as on commercial radio but there they are.

The commercials are even worse on PBS-TV. I watch the News Hour on PBS. One of their biggest sponsors is Chevron, and PBS mentions them at the beginning of each show and shows a longer Chevron commercial after each News Hour show. :evil:
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby seldom_seen » Sat 08 Mar 2008, 03:20:39

I listen to NPR every morning when bustin' a shower. I listen mainly for the fact that I know millions of others are listening and consider NPR as a valid news source. It allows me to stay contemporary with one of the propaganda arms of the friendly fascist state. I listen as an anthropologist might study a tribe in Borneo. "Ah, so this is what makes them tick?"

I often catch myself and think "did they really just say that?" I shake my head and think, "nah, I'm just imagining things."

They seem to have strict censorship policy against truth & reality. Everything has to be softened up, sanitized, politically correctized as to not cause anyone in their Subaru Forrester to spit starbucks coffee across the dashboard.
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby IanC » Sat 08 Mar 2008, 12:21:08

Killjoy, I feel ya.

I listen to NPR regularly and have to keep reminding myself that it is still mainstream propaganda, just spun toward a different demographic than Fox news or CNN. I, too, want to puke when I hear their very surface, very pro-corporate "analysis" of energy/depletion issues about which I care so deeply.

I think what gets me the most is how they always talk about how "something" must be done, but are so beholden to corporate and government sponsorship that they can do nothing but help perpetuate wild overconsumpution by their listeners. Listening to NPR just makes people feel like they're informed and enlightened, but doesn't make them actually more responsible. [smilie=eusa_liar.gif]

In Portland, we have KBOO (KBOO.fm on the internet) for alternative, non-corporate news.

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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby killJOY » Sat 08 Mar 2008, 12:36:09

I'm near the "other" Portland, and luckily we have good college radio nearby to hear Pacifica (mentioned above).
Last night on NPR took the cake: "Economy: bad! Now for a long story about the HOLLYWOOD SIGN in L.A.!" I Expletive deleted. you not.
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby mattduke » Sat 08 Mar 2008, 12:51:54

I like Click and Clack.
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby TheDude » Sat 08 Mar 2008, 13:27:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'I') like Click and Clack.
:lol: Those guys rule. Wonder how their cheery demeanor will hold up in the Long Emergency though.

Sometimes tune in NPR but I spit noodles out of my nose last summer when Fresh Air had back to back interviews with James Baker III (Expletive deleted.!) and some priest who converts gays. Definitely not worth a totebag!

Walking about I have Global Public Media on my wee 4GB iPod. Around the house I mostly listen on wireless headphones to Text-to-Speech of blogs like Oil Drum. Radio is pretty brain dead by definition - would you bother with a restaurant with 10 things on the menu?
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby killJOY » Sat 08 Mar 2008, 14:05:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') like Click and Clack.

It seems like they have stopped talking about peak oil. I seem to remember that they were pretty savvy about energy supplies (this wld be back in 2005-2006). Why have they shut up? Or maybe they haven't?
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Re: Does NPR stand for giant piece of

Unread postby roccman » Sat 08 Mar 2008, 15:15:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '[')b]Expletive deleted.? A story on oil prices, that non-entity, what's his name, Carl CExpletive deleted. , asked some dude, an "analist" named Adam: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;So OPEC says there's plenty of reserves, so what's REALLY causing the high price of oil?"
Adam Expletive deleted. says, "BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH, the problem isn't supply, there's plenty of supply, putting more oil on the market won't help." Expletives deleted.!!!!!!!
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