[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'C')ontroversy sells pops

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '
')I might add that, as a doomer, I see my condition as that of a lower officer of the "Titanic," who's fully aware of and horrified at what's coming and doing what I can to forestall it, yet at the same time a detached observer of it.

[inculcated]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'T')here is no mystery to it-the harder you work the luckier you get.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('inculcated', 'I')'m more of the mindset that the only prep that increases your survivability is that which tunes your mind. Ability to accept your death, the skill to process input in a timely manner and the knowledge of how to live on the fly are things to consider. All the material prep in the world will not save you if you are overly attached to that accumulation and you decide to defend it against inappropriate odds instead of being able to leave it all in a moment and remove yourself from threat...

[Pops]

I suppose tuning your mind to running away is an option – in many circumstances very wise.

But as an excuse to not strive for anything to protect, I disagree.

You have nothing to protect?

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'I') suppose tuning your mind to running away is an option – in many circumstances very wise.

But as an excuse to not strive for anything to protect, I disagree.

You have nothing to protect?

[yeahbut]

So what's the plan guys? So many people here are so utterly sure of how it's gonna play out. You argue your position with passion and conviction. There's no doubt. Die-off is coming, it's gonna be soon and it's gonna be big. So what's the plan? How can you possibly afford to spend another moment at your keyboards? Staring at the screen when you can see the zombie hordes approaching with such clarity doesn't seem a very rational response, is it a rabbit in the headlights thing? Rationality and logic seem to be held very dear here, and anyone who doesn't see that a huge die-off is coming is, by definition, lacking in those qualities. So, apply that rationality and logic to yourselves. It doesn't make sense to tell lots of strangers about the coming apocalypse, there won't be enough to go around and you need to get as much of what's left as you can. It doesn't make sense to spend another minute on this site-the last few grains of sand are trickling thru the hourglass right now! Get your seed stocks, your ammo and your loved ones and head for the compound-your unwavering, 100%, no doubts, knowledge of what is coming, and logic, demand it.

[Ludi]

I don't subscribe to logic and rationality, so I'm cool with shooting the breeze here.


I can't grasp the simplest concepts, apparently.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yeahbut', '.')..

[Twilight]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yeahbut', '.')..

[yeahbut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', ' ')But that's how positioning yourself for peak oil goes.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '
')Check out Gail's new doc Another Inconvenient Truth - A presentation you can download. Short and sweet, graphs of production declines and the basics of less oil over time; let the reader draw their own conclusions. Nothing about starving yuppies chewing the leather on their seatbelts of their SUVs to survive.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('thuja', 'H')ow many people do you honestly think are going to pore through old threads to find that nugget of wisdom?

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yeahbut', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', ' ')But that's how positioning yourself for peak oil goes.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yeahbut', 'S')o what's the plan guys? So many people here are so utterly sure of how it's gonna play out. You argue your position with passion and conviction. There's no doubt. Die-off is coming, it's gonna be soon and it's gonna be big. So what's the plan? How can you possibly afford to spend another moment at your keyboards? Staring at the screen when you can see the zombie hordes approaching with such clarity doesn't seem a very rational response, is it a rabbit in the headlights thing? Rationality and logic seem to be held very dear here, and anyone who doesn't see that a huge die-off is coming is, by definition, lacking in those qualities. So, apply that rationality and logic to yourselves. It doesn't make sense to tell lots of strangers about the coming apocalypse, there won't be enough to go around and you need to get as much of what's left as you can. It doesn't make sense to spend another minute on this site-the last few grains of sand are trickling thru the hourglass right now! Get your seed stocks, your ammo and your loved ones and head for the compound-your unwavering, 100%, no doubts, knowledge of what is coming, and logic, demand it.

[yeahbut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', '
')
It's in the "Planning for the Future" forum. Where I mostly hang out.

[Heineken]

Good response. Welcome, yeahbut! (Great handle, BTW.)

I think many of us who believe in a day of reckoning are ambivalent about how to respond to it, or with what urgency. No one knows when collapse will occur, how severe it will be, and how long the unwinding will take.

Although I'm more of the preparer type, I recognize that the "live for today; eat, drink, and be merry" mentality is a perfectly logical response to looming catastrophe.

Some of us want to do more to prepare but have entanglements or limitations of various types.

We just have to do what we can to get ready for a very different world while recognizing that, in the meantime, we must still fit into this one. It's a balancing act, not an either-or proposition.

I agree that there are times when it's hard to believe that what's happening is real and not science fiction. I have become more depressed over the years by the realization that it really is real and that it's getting more real every day. The signs are everywhere, and I see them working in my own personal life. Global warming was the thing that has really hammered the reality deep into my brain, and pushed me over the edge into blackest doomerism.

As one member says, "Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide."

[Lighthouse]

double post - again ...

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'G')ood response. Welcome, yeahbut! (Great handle, BTW.)

I think many of us who believe in a day of reckoning are ambivalent about how to respond to it, or with what urgency. No one knows when collapse will occur, how severe it will be, and how long the unwinding will take.

Although I'm more of the preparer type, I recognize that the "live for today; eat, drink, and be merry" mentality is a perfectly logical response to looming catastrophe.

Some of us want to do more to prepare but have entanglements or limitations of various types.

We just have to do what we can to get ready for a very different world while recognizing that, in the meantime, we must still fit into this one. It's a balancing act, not an either-or proposition.

I agree that there are times when it's hard to believe that what's happening is real and not science fiction. I have become more depressed over the years by the realization that it really is real and that it's getting more real every day. The signs are everywhere, and I see them working in my own personal life. Global warming was the thing that has really hammered the reality deep into my brain, and pushed me over the edge into blackest doomerism.

As one member says, "Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide."

[Ludi]

I like that philosophy, Lighthouse.