[daniel347]

I found out about peak oil a couple of years ago by typing "end of the world" into google as a joke. i think most people just dont encounter any information about peak oil. i had a teacher in my environmental science class who I think was concerned about these kind of issues, but I think most people just dont know. I would like to spread awareness, by printing out letters and mailing them to local mp's or just putting them up somewhere. Can anyone help me with this by pointing me to something I can print out and send to people? surely people are going to take notice at 100 a barrel.

[Gazzatrone]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('daniel347', 'I') found out about peak oil a couple of years ago by typing "end of the world" into google as a joke. i think most people just dont encounter any information about peak oil. i had a teacher in my environmental science class who I think was concerned about these kind of issues, but I think most people just dont know. I would like to spread awareness, by printing out letters and mailing them to local mp's or just putting them up somewhere. Can anyone help me with this by pointing me to something I can print out and send to people?

[daniel347]

Thanks for the reply Actually I am from australia. I think I will buy some good books about peak oil and get the people I know to read them.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('daniel347', 'T')hanks for the reply Actually I am from australia. I think I will buy some good books about peak oil and get the people I know to read them.

[Cornelian]

As an Australian, I am here to tell you that people simply don't want to know. Oh, they may be aware of the concept of PO., but the implications? How it may affect their lives? Never. It is not as if a gigantic light bulb is going to go off, or anything. People implicitly believe that things will always stay the same, if not get better. No one is going to move out of their comfort zone. They just will not - read refuse - to get it.

[Judgie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('daniel347', 'T')hanks for the reply Actually I am from australia. I think I will buy some good books about peak oil and get the people I know to read them.

[daniel347]

tasmania.

I just sent an email to bob brown. Hope he replies.

[Cornelian]

I am sure Bob's staff have a lovely standard email ready for you.

A snail mail letter is always better than an email. It means that you care more, have more commitment, and are interested and sincere enough to take out the little bit of extra time.

But the politicians of Australia are not yet ready to suddenly jump up and down about it because the general Australian public don't give a red rat's arse at the moment. They want tax cuts and more air conditioning, please.

[billp]

I learned about peak oil from chemistry teacher Mr Agerter in 1956.

I thought peak oil may have occurred in 1972-73 when I was on sabbatical leave in computer science at UI.

Wrong.

Then I thought that peak oil was in about 1980. I failed to anticipate Prudoe Bay and North Sea oil fields.

Wrong again.

But I may have some insight into happened in 1980.

So let's see what happens next.

I, of course, have been wrong about oil futures before and don't know what's going to happen next. So I'm prepared to be wrong again. HOPEFULLY!

So we're off to essential non-gas-wasting travel to pheasant hunt in Kansas on Friday November 2, 2007. Like we did in 2006.


regards

[daniel347]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cornelian', 'I') am sure Bob's staff have a lovely standard email ready for you.

A snail mail letter is always better than an email. It means that you care more, have more commitment, and are interested and sincere enough to take out the little bit of extra time.

But the politicians of Australia are not yet ready to suddenly jump up and down about it because the general Australian public don't give a red rat's arse at the moment. They want tax cuts and more air conditioning, please.

[thuja]

Hey all my rellies live in Tas-

My aunt was a Green MP for a while- Tas is a great place to be post-peak and with climate change happening. Get yourself connected with your Green brethren- they are legion there. Get some hard assets if you can- land, home, stove, gold, silver, garden, etc- anything tangible and useful. Learn skills- carpentry, rainwater catchment, farming, sheep raising (big there), plumbing, composting toilet building, on and on and on...Good luck- if you run into my cousins- tell them I may see them on the big Steamer ship if my country gets into a nuclear war...

[Micki]

Daniel.
The senate did a study on PO and concluded it is likely to happen 2020. I would say they are aware but hoping that sticking the head in the sand will fix the problem.
The only one who is taking this seriously is McNamara (Labour) up in Hervey bay. Like to remember he is now part of a QLD energy study group.

Some chat with McNamara after four corners PO show can be found here;
Four corners

Why not try hassling current affair shows to take up the subject?

[Concerned]

Hahahahahaha spreading awareness.

I tell you when people will become PO aware.... when the sign on a good chunk of gas/petrol bowser's says "out of gas"

I spoke today with a work friend about potential future hardships regards declining energy supply oil, gas and even coal.

I was not so much rebuffed but in general conversation told about the great hope of technology and then an addendum about going to Mars.

Seriously and I work in the IT field, this female person I was talking with is really clever too on the tech side of things, but good lord as soon as going to Mars came up I mean whats the point....

"out of gas" thats when people will get it. Unfortunately it will be a low point of begining mitigation strategy.

[Nano]

Here's some advice from a peak oil debating freak with experience:

It's all about showing how the alternatives are not up to the challenge, particularely biofuels.

I find that I can get most people to agree that the hydrogen economy is a no-go for at least a coupleof decades, but there are still a number of otherwise very intelligent people in my circle who insist that we can 'switch to biofuels within the year' if needed. So my primary focus is on debunking biofuels in order to get peak oil recognised. In this regard, a number of usefull reports have comeout these last few months, from the UN and the EU research groups. Use those reports to drive the message home. Once people accept peak oil and recognise the poverty of the hydrogen 'silver-bullit' you can proceed to smackdown by exposing the senseless and destructive horror of the biofuels rush.

[yeahbut]

Yup, it really is remarkably hard to get most people to think seriously about PO. I've been giving intermittent lectures to the poor bastard I work with for about 3 months now and I'm still not far past where I started. I consider the difficulty that most people have engaging with the issues of PO to be one of the most perplexing things about the whole subject. I mean how can it be that climate change, something so huge and vague and long term(qualities that usually cause immediate mental shutdown in most sapiens), has caught the public imagination and is mentioned constantly in the public arena? I mean, I don't know what it's like elsewhere but here in New Zealand one of the perennial news items and watercooler topics is the price of gas at the pump, and the time frame on PO seems to be well within that selfish 5-10 year window that motivates all but the most dull-witted of humans, and yet-for most people-nothing!
I guess the other thing I'd mention is: beware of the monte_quest syndrome, that is browbeating your victim to a point of hopeless depression and inertia-a state just as useless as ignorance...

[aflurry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nano', '
')It's all about showing how the alternatives are not up to the challenge, particularely biofuels.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aflurry', ' ')And my fellow lefty friend was all in a huff saying, "well, what? should we just sit back and do nothing???!"

[Gazzatrone]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billp', 'I') learned about peak oil from chemistry teacher Mr Agerter in 1956.

I thought peak oil may have occurred in 1972-73 when I was on sabbatical leave in computer science at UI.

Wrong.

Then I thought that peak oil was in about 1980. I failed to anticipate Prudoe Bay and North Sea oil fields.

Wrong again.

But I may have some insight into happened in 1980.

So let's see what happens next.

I, of course, have been wrong about oil futures before and don't know what's going to happen next. So I'm prepared to be wrong again. HOPEFULLY!

So we're off to essential non-gas-wasting travel to pheasant hunt in Kansas on Friday November 2, 2007. Like we did in 2006.


regards

[vfr]

I wrote a paper on overpopulation that lead to global warming that lead to peak oil that lead to peak NG that lead to peak water and peak food.

V