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No collapse 2007

Unread postby kadoomsoon » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 15:22:39

Pumpin Ben has flagged his intentions:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Federal Reserve pumped $41 billion into the U.S. financial system Thursday, the largest cash infusion since September 2001, to help companies get through a credit crunch.

The action comes one day after Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and all but one of his central bank colleagues voted to slice a key interest rate for the second time in six weeks to protect the economy from the ill effects of collapse in the housing market, aggravated by the credit troubles.

Anyway, enjoy the last year you will have without economic crisis, Happy new year!
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby eXpat » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 16:21:49

kadoomsoon wrote:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nyway, enjoy the last year you will have without economic crisis, Happy new year!


No doubt about that, IMO this is going to be the last normal new year, the great depression of 2008 started on June/July this year with the subprime crisis, and is just taking its time 'cos is too big, plus rising petrol prices, etc, etc. This is it and I don't like it a bit...
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby Cobra_Strike » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 16:26:48

There was a big decline today on credit troubles...so this is hardly a suprise, emergency countermeasures.
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby sittinguy » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 19:08:01

I"M FREAKIN OUT
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby MacG » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 19:18:00

Ehhh... Is 2007 over already? Last time I checked it was Nov... Two months to go.
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby PrairieMule » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 20:02:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kadoomsoon', '
')The action comes one day after Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and all but one of his central bank colleagues voted to slice a key interest rate for the second time in six weeks to protect the economy from the ill effects of collapse in the housing market, aggravated by the credit troubles.


Can you hear that thunderous roar? It's the Avalanche of millions of pre approved credit card solicitations soon to flood our mailboxes again.

You prayed for rain America, here it is. Last chance to party like we are back in 1999.
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 20:15:26

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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby Revi » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 22:41:59

Why did the Dow go down 360 points a day after getting two rate cuts and a big fix of liquidity? What's going on? I think that the collapse is on its way now. Nothing we can do about it.
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 22:55:06

God that would be so friggen great. Come on collapse. I don't want to wait until I am to old to fight the zombie hordes.

Lets crash the whole system now.

Lets party like its 1292
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby Bas » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 22:58:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'G')od that would be so friggen great. Come on collapse. I don't want to wait until I am to old to fight the zombie hordes.

Lets crash the whole system now.

Lets party like its 1292


like it's 1929 would sound better. Just a suggestion ; )
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby rostov » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 22:58:37

Guys,

This is news which is way too magnified. If you look at TOMO:

http://www.gmtfo.com/reporeader/OMOps.aspx

Today 42.5b matures (gets returned to the fed). Afterwhich 41b gets approved (lent out). This is net decrease of 1.5b. So the news focuses on 41b without elaboration.

The only numbers worth of note is that of this 41b lent out, 27b is MBS. Very worrying figures. One of them actually borrowed from Fed 21b, of which 20b is MBS (which we know is already very very worthless)

The S&P going down is only 1/2 the story. Australia had a pump (trading hours) and dump (after hours), and the Europeans had a dump as well (brought down the S&P). What you saw on the S&P was only 1/2 of what already happened 18 hours prior. Key element here: folks realised the Fed were telling the equities -- you're on drugs, and here's the last fix folks -- no more from us until 6 weeks later.

Those who do intra-week trading would've ridden from the ASX after-hours across all boards (ASX, FTSE/DAX, S&P) to have a nice ride. IMHO I don't know if it will go down further on Friday. Right now ASX is level, so I'll get to know in 6 hours time.

Folks like Roccman would relay an S&P to be around 800ish, and I will tend to agree except that nobody knows if its a fast or slow target.
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby PeakingAroundtheCorner » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 22:58:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'G')od that would be so friggen great. Come on collapse. I don't want to wait until I am to old to fight the zombie hordes.

Lets crash the whole system now.

Lets party like its 1292


Enjoy your posts for the most part, your village idiotness, but had to chime in and agree with you on this one.

LET"S ROLL!
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby Revi » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 23:02:56

Even Marketwatch sounds an awful lot like us Peak Oilers. they even mention it in their byline. Check out the "there's no doubt about it, peak oil is here" in this article. I like the reccomendation to buy alternatives. Maybe there is a silver lining in this cloud:

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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Thu 01 Nov 2007, 23:13:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'G')od that would be so friggen great. Come on collapse. I don't want to wait until I am to old to fight the zombie hordes.

Lets crash the whole system now.

Lets party like its 1292


like it's 1929 would sound better. Just a suggestion ; )


Nah, I am hoping this one makes 1929 look like 1999
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby mercurygirl » Fri 02 Nov 2007, 00:40:56

So, is the major crash going to come before or after the election?

I rely on all you people with the crystal balls, you know. :lol:
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby bodigami » Fri 02 Nov 2007, 17:14:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eXpat', '[')b]kadoomsoon wrote:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nyway, enjoy the last year you will have without economic crisis, Happy new year!


No doubt about that, IMO this is going to be the last normal new year, the great depression of 2008 started on June/July this year with the subprime crisis, and is just taking its time 'cos is too big, plus rising petrol prices, etc, etc. This is it and I don't like it a bit...


I'm hoping the crash happens after I buy a hard asset (a MacBook Pro)...
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby static66 » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 15:24:32

We are on the cusp of economic collapse right now... it is Sunday November 11 and we had a real hiccup last week losing 600+ points off the DoH Jones... Mondays are always nice for a mass exodus out of market... lets see if the electronic stoppers work their magic or if the weekend was spent figuring out how to get around them...... I say we will see some serious shit before we see '08.
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby static66 » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 15:24:49

We are on the cusp of economic collapse right now... it is Sunday November 11 and we had a real hiccup last week losing 600+ points off the DoH Jones... Mondays are always nice for a mass exodus out of market... lets see if the electronic stoppers work their magic or if the weekend was spent figuring out how to get around them...... I say we will see some serious shit before we see '08.
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby roccman » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 15:58:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', 'S')o, is the major crash going to come before or after the election?

I rely on all you people with the crystal balls, you know. :lol:



Tomorrow - could be as early as this afternoon when Asia markets begin trading...
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Re: No collapse 2007

Unread postby Zardoz » Sun 11 Nov 2007, 16:09:09

Nah. We underestimate the power of the Plunge Protection Team, and how determined TPTB are to keep this smoke-and-mirrors charade going.

They can't stop it from happening, but they can stretch it out for a long time. We'll see a slow, agonizing decline over a period of years, not a sudden crash. Psychologically, that may be worse than a fast collapse.

It'll be horrible to watch.
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