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THE Mexico Thread Pt. 2 (merged)

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Re: Analysts watch, wince as Mexico's oil supply dwindles

Unread postby Fishman » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 09:54:41

This ole liberal is about to become a border-guarding nativist

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Re: Analysts watch, wince as Mexico's oil supply dwindles

Unread postby jimmyz » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 15:25:02

they just froze gas prices:

"The freeze on fuel and electricity prices is necessary to ensure that inflation does not hurt poor families"
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Re: Analysts watch, wince as Mexico's oil supply dwindles

Unread postby pana_burda » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 15:35:35

Boy I am glad it is just a "potential" problem ...... for Mexico!

I just could NOT imagen myself of "another" such country, in which 80% of its hard currency comes stricktly from the same source, does not produce a thing for themselves yet its crude oil production is declining by the days, for mismanagement! [smilie=eusa_doh.gif]


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Re: Analysts watch, wince as Mexico's oil supply dwindles

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 17:01:31

Makes me feel more doomerish with every passing day. The stress is already high as I try to choose between a variety of things to do to prepare first. Build another shed? Buy an XD .45? Pay off debt? Buy a used tiller (I spade everything by hand now)?

Not enough time

Not enough time...
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Re: Analysts watch, wince as Mexico's oil supply dwindles

Unread postby FairMaiden » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 18:52:13

The tar sands are planning to switch from NG to nuclear.

Canada has also developed a method to inject old wells with carbon dioxide to squeeze the last bit out of it AND mitigate Climate Change in the process...

Just to push PO back a *little* bit ;-)
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Re: Analysts watch, wince as Mexico's oil supply dwindles

Unread postby americandream » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 19:17:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]potentially undermining the nation's oil-dependent budget.

potentially?

40% of the mexican government budget comes directly from Pemex petroleum. Mexico is an oil-oligopoly. There is no other power. no other order.

This ole liberal is about to become a border-guarding nativist.


Border guarding nativist......hahaha...it's a bizarre world when a white man's guarding the border against the red man on the continent that spawned the red man....hahahahaha. Life's bizarre!
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Re: Analysts watch, wince as Mexico's oil supply dwindles

Unread postby Fishman » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 19:45:58

they just froze gas prices:

"The freeze on fuel and electricity prices is necessary to ensure that inflation does not hurt poor families"

If this is true it garantees fuel shortages, can you say black market?
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Re: Analysts watch, wince as Mexico's oil supply dwindles

Unread postby NTBKtrader » Wed 26 Sep 2007, 20:09:53

The "red man" is from Asia. Americandream, you also pasture on the Asian man, the Maori's land. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is.
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Mexico: Another 600,000 out of the equation

Unread postby Gazzatrone » Mon 29 Oct 2007, 08:34:03

Saw this on Bloomberg this morning as oil pushed past $93.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Crude Oil Rises to Record Above $93 as Mexico Idles Production
Oct. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil climbed above $93 a barrel for the first time, extending this month's gain to 16 percent, after Mexico shut a fifth of its production and the dollar fell to a record low.
State-owned Petroleos Mexicanos, the third-largest supplier of crude to the U.S., halted about 600,000 barrels a day of output as a storm in the Gulf of Mexico closed platforms, spokesman Carlos Ramirez said in Mexico City. The dollar dropped to $1.4426 per euro, the weakest since the introduction of the 13-nation common currency in 1999.



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Re: Another 600,000 out of the equation

Unread postby pup55 » Mon 29 Oct 2007, 10:12:10

This is a continuation of the problems of a week or so ago where strong winds wrecked one of those offshore platforms, and killed a
lot of people.


Mexico's export business was shut completely down for a couple of days.

It will take about two weeks for the effects of this to make it into the weekly import figures, or at least that is the length of time it took for the effects of Hurricane Dean to be felt.

The conditions around the LOOP (Louisiana Offshore Oil Port) where about half of the imports come into the country, were pretty rough yesterday: 6 foot waves, and 30 mph winds, with gusts up to about 40.

I know I would hate to be sitting on top of 500 thousand barrels of a flammable liquid trying to offload it under those conditions.

This buoy is a little to the east of the LOOP

Buoy 42040

This morning, it is not much better: 19 knot winds (about 23 mph) and 9 foot waves.
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Re: Another 600,000 out of the equation

Unread postby TheTurtle » Mon 29 Oct 2007, 10:16:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gazzatrone', 'S')urely this has got to hurt deeper when trading opens in New York.
I've given up trying to figure out what is going to hurt trading. Optimism seems to reign supreme, despite constant evidence to the contrary.
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Re: Another 600,000 out of the equation

Unread postby Starvid » Mon 29 Oct 2007, 10:48:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gazzatrone', 'S')urely this has got to hurt deeper when trading opens in New York.
I've given up trying to figure out what is going to hurt trading. Optimism seems to reign supreme, despite constant evidence to the contrary.

That's why you shouldn't do trading and speculation, but saving and investment.

In the long run the market will adapt to reality.
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Re: Another 600,000 out of the equation

Unread postby Gazzatrone » Mon 29 Oct 2007, 11:12:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Starvid', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gazzatrone', 'S')urely this has got to hurt deeper when trading opens in New York.
I've given up trying to figure out what is going to hurt trading. Optimism seems to reign supreme, despite constant evidence to the contrary.

That's why you shouldn't do trading and speculation, but saving and investment.

In the long run the market will adapt to reality.


If a market still exists surely!
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Re: Another 600,000 out of the equation

Unread postby DantesPeak » Mon 29 Oct 2007, 12:24:46

There’s not much additional information on this PEMEX shutdown in the Mexican press. Something was lost in translation of this article (using Google), but apparently the weather yesterday was severe enough for PEMEX to remove workers from oil platforms.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')0/29/07 EFE Mundo 01:02:00

Evil forces time to close wells in the Gulf of Mexico and to stop repairs

Mexico, October 28 (EFE) - A new cold front that looms over the Gulf of Mexico today forced to postpone the production of 200,000 barrels per day of crude oil to Petroleos Mexicanos (Pemex), and to stop repairs in a pot this week suffered an accident that left 21 dead.

The company reported in a press release that the progress of instability will make in the next few hours to close more wells which will increase daily production deferred from tomorrow by 400,000 barrels.

The new cold front number 5 forced in the last few hours to the company Pemex Exploration and Production (PEP) to withdraw personnel who was on the platform Usumacinta to repair the leak in the well Kab 101.

"It is noteworthy that during the time that these personnel were placed aboard a control valve, as well as connections to inject cement," he added Pemex.



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Re: Another 600,000 out of the equation

Unread postby pup55 » Mon 29 Oct 2007, 16:19:06

Buoy 42002

This buoy is the closest NOAA buoy to Cantarell and has pretty much the same conditions found elsewhere in the Gulf: 20-30 mph winds, 8.5 foot waves, average wave period 6 seconds.

A pretty bumpy ride, I must say.

42005

Edit:

This one might be even closer, and it's even windier. Gusts up to 30 knots, that's 35 mph. The wave height measurer is down on this one, but it can't be good.
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Re: Another 600,000 out of the equation

Unread postby DantesPeak » Mon 29 Oct 2007, 17:22:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '
')A pretty bumpy ride, I must say.


PEMEX agrees, oil exports are not expected to resume as quickly as thought:

UPDATE: Pemex Says Ports Need To Open To Restart Production

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')OW JONES NEWSWIRES
October 29, 2007 1:52 p.m.

MEXICO CITY (Dow Jones)--Petroleos Mexicanos, or Pemex, will have to wait for three ports in the Gulf of Mexico to reopen before the company restarts 600,000 barrels a day in offshore output because it has run out of storage capacity, said a company spokewoman on Monday.

The transportation ministry on Monday said all three of the oil export ports in the Gulf of Mexico - Pajaritos, Cayo Arcas and Dos Bocas - remain shut. A port official at Pajaritos said the port does not expect to resume operations on Monday.

Jaime Alvarran, a meteorologist with Mexico's national weather service, said strong winds should die down on Tuesday, allowing the ports to gradually reopen.

"We expect the ports to begin to reopen on Tuesday," he said.

On Monday morning, winds were at up to 75 kilometers an hour (about 46 miles per hour) on the coast of the southern Gulf of Mexico.

Pemex also had to shut the three ports for a few days last week due to bad weather.

Earlier Monday, a Pemex spokesman said the company will be able to reestablish "original conditions" by Tuesday.


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Re: Another 600,000 out of the equation

Unread postby pup55 » Tue 30 Oct 2007, 09:48:20

Slightly nicer down there today:

42002 (Southern GOM)

Wave height 8.5 feet, every 10 seconds, wind has died down to 17.5 knots

42055 (Bay of Campeche)

Wind 21.4 knots (about 25 mph). No wave height reports.

I am still not going to take my pontoon boat out into this, though.
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