[Kylon]

I was wondering what y'all would think about this.


Using very, very small concentrations of ammonium nitrate in fuel oil. This way it would catalyze the reaction.

The ammonium nitrate gets ignited, heats up every bit of oil next to it to the burning point, so that the engine can burn the fuel oil more efficiently. Gives the fuel oil higher octane.

I wanna know your thoughts, because if it would work then it would allow us to easily increase our fuel efficiency.

[emersonbiggins]

Ammonium nitrate may combust too well...

[Kylon]

That's why I said very, very small concentrations.

Using like 0.001% in order to raise the octane rating of the fuel significantly.

[aflatoxin]

AN is made from natural gas. I seriously doubt that you would get enough benefit to offset the additional cost. If there was free ammonia in the exhaust after combustion, you could potentially use selective catalytic reduction to reduce NOx emissions. Currently, urea injection is used.

Propane in diesels does help. I don"t know if the $ end of the equation makes sense.

There are dual-fuel NG/Diesel engines. These are less expensive to operate than straight diesel.

Good luck. If you solve the internal combustion problem, you will be richer than Bill Gates.

[kadoomsoon]

It is always good to try and help, but most inventions by trial and error have been discovered. Taking a college course in general chemistry then inorganic and advanced organic chem would help us understand about fuel efficiencies.

Here are some corrections:

1. Increased octane does not increase fuel energy or power output in general.

2. Inncreased octane makes the fuel burn MORE SLOWLY so that the engine can be built with higher compression ratios.

3. An average engine burns 99% of each piston stroke already. Going to 100% burn would save you 3 cents a gallon. But it would cost more than three cents to add the chemical.

4. Solids in a liquid would precipitate and plug hoses, build up and detonate. Would not be good for engines.

5. The energy in a fuel is related to its chemical structure and wether it is a hydrocarbon or a carbohydrate or combinations.

6. Per unit volume, most liquids put out nearly the same energy per gram if the fuel type is the same.

7. Nitrates add energy and burn into nitric acid which will eat up the piston and crank shaft. Most drag racers rebuild and replace their whole engine every day they dont care about the nitric acid products, people would.

8. You won't drive any further on premium or regular in general if your engine can run on regular, do it.
Premium just costs you more. If you drive a Porsch you should run premium. some newer motors need premium or their timing will degrade. Best option is sell them and buy a Honda or Toyota 4 cylinder.

9. Additives to fuel have been popular for snake oil salesmen. Some even claim you can run on water.

10, The key is: Buy a ligher car. Buy a smaller car. Drive carefully, keep your tires pumped up.

And when you fill up, don't spill any.

[BobWallace]

Ammonium Nitrate can also apparently be made using electricity rather than natural gas. Important for our post fossil fuel future...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')... to determine the feasibility of producing large amounts of nitrogen, phosphate, and potassium fertilizers with the cheap power produced from a large atomic reactor. The optimum combination was a multipurpose plant to produce fresh water from sea water by distillation and fertilizer from the air, sea, and phosphate rock. No other raw materials are required and only the three principal fertilizers containing nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium are produced. Large amounts of byproducts, requiring shipment and sale, are not produced. The arc process is used for nitrogen fixation from air to produce nitric acid and fresh water is electrolyzed to produce hydrogen for nitrogen fixation from air as ammonia. Ammonium nitrate can be formed as the final product. Alternatively, nitric acid could be produced by oxidation of ammonia instead of the arc process, if cheaper.

[kadoomsoon]

From a large hydroelectric dam also. This is much cheaper.

But there will be a huge electrical shortage after oil shorts.

And we are back to inputting energy into chemical compounds just to burn them again.

inefficient and like ethanol.

Also can't make enough because of scale problems.

Making fuel to burn will never solve our problem.
Making hydrogen to burn won't solve the problem either.
The problem is to many people burning too much energy.

[BobWallace]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kadoomsoon', 'F')rom a large hydroelectric dam also. This is much cheaper.

But there will be a huge electrical shortage after oil shorts.

And we are back to inputting energy into chemical compounds just to burn them again.

inefficient and like ethanol.

Also can't make enough because of scale problems.

Making fuel to burn will never solve our problem.
Making hydrogen to burn won't solve the problem either.
The problem is to many people burning too much energy.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I') was wondering what y'all would think about this.


Using very, very small concentrations of ammonium nitrate in fuel oil. This way it would catalyze the reaction.

The ammonium nitrate gets ignited, heats up every bit of oil next to it to the burning point, so that the engine can burn the fuel oil more efficiently. Gives the fuel oil higher octane.

I wanna know your thoughts, because if it would work then it would allow us to easily increase our fuel efficiency.

[cowteat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BobWallace', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kadoomsoon', 'F')rom a large hydroelectric dam also. This is much cheaper.

But there will be a huge electrical shortage after oil shorts.

And we are back to inputting energy into chemical compounds just to burn them again.

inefficient and like ethanol.

Also can't make enough because of scale problems.

Making fuel to burn will never solve our problem.
Making hydrogen to burn won't solve the problem either.
The problem is to many people burning too much energy.

[jbeckton]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cowteat', 'W')ell, so you get 9-10 maybe even 5, so? lots of time. Just don't waste it watching Oprah.

[cowteat]

LOL

What good will voting do? Last two elections votes didn't matter who had the most votes. they know who is going to win next time.
Against all the exit polls, they knew who was going to win and predicted it correctly. Amazing occult activity there...

As far as turning off the boob tube

of course the loan sharks would suffer:

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This would be very healthy for you.