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When, if at all, will society feel the brunt of peak oil?!
Re: When, if at all, will society feel the brunt of peak oil
by Onyered » Mon 08 Oct 2007, 00:34:30
When people start parking their Hummers and walking home because they can't find fuel anywhere.
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Re: When, if at all, will society feel the brunt of peak oil
by Gman61 » Mon 08 Oct 2007, 04:13:52
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jbeckton', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Russophile', ' ')\Surely governments are aware of the issue?
Of course. That's why we are in Iraq and will never leave.
If that were really the plan (not saying that has nothing to do with it), why not go to Saudi Arabia instead? They have much more oil, a better exporting infastructure, and it's home to most of the "terrorists".
Not sure if anyone answered this as I haven't read the whole thread.
I believe the coalition attacked Iraq because the US already has access to Saudi oil through deeply coupled business interests.
In establishing a presence in Iraq it secures access to Saudi oil by having a strong military presence in the Gulf of Arabia. For instance, if there is regime change in Saudi Arabia that undermines Western interests the coalition can go in as "peacekeepers" and secure the oil. But there is no need to attack Saudi Aarabia while we are getting the oil.
This theory was proposed about 2005 by a writer who was (and is) deeply neo-con and pro-Iraq war. He was saying, "OK, so all the stated reasons for the war were phoney - big deal - we secure our energy reserves with this war. It is still a good war". Of course he also explained the added benefits of security and democratization that it would bring to the Iraqis.
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Re: When, if at all, will society feel the brunt of peak oil
by Revi » Mon 08 Oct 2007, 15:04:47
About the Bengladeshis, they are already sneaking in to Calcutta. They occupy the bottom rungs of society, and are adding to an already overcrowded situation. I read that somewhere recently. I imagine they will be in really bad shape with global warming as well. I have heard that half the country is underwater a lot of the time now, and it will only get worse.
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Re: When, if at all, will society feel the brunt of peak oil
by TreebeardsUncle » Mon 22 Oct 2007, 02:11:21
Well, the long emergency has just started in the states. When Mexico can no longer maintain exports to the US at current levels in the summer of 2009 and the Canadian oil sands are found to be a poor subsitute, gas will surpass $4/gallon and then phsyical supply limitations will be hard to ignore. When gas passes $5/gallon by 2012, and that leads to GM, Ford, and Chrysler having more severe losses, it will be come clear that something more than an oil price spike is occuring and folks should get ready for a protacted decline liquid fuel supply situation.
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Re: When, if at all, will society feel the brunt of peak oil
by AgentR » Mon 22 Oct 2007, 12:05:21
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nicholai', 'S')urely 150 million people aren't willing to rollover and die during food shortages and resource depletion.
Willingness has nothing to do with it.
A few will escape, one way or another. Most will likely die, disease, starvation, bullets.... None of which will ask the permission of the residents of Bangladesh.
Yes, we are. As we are.
And so shall we remain; Until the end.
And so shall we remain; Until the end.
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