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Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby M_B_S » Sat 06 Oct 2007, 11:01:56

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 751509.ece

http://dieoff.org/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FVZSUsT-Ws
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 751509.ece

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cd8ffb5a-f14b ... 10621.html

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/ar ... my-vision/

http://comment.independent.co.uk/commen ... 338830.ece

NOW the Amazon forest burns .....

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/AmazonFire/

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/new ... crops.html

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Natura ... g_id=14556



We need a green revolution to fix the problem!

100% renewable energy untill 2030 or die off

Capitalism is eating the earth.

We human mankind must change our way of life

Its TIME !

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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 06 Oct 2007, 13:33:42

Yep, we need to change our way of life or possibly go extinct. Certainly what we think of as "modern civilization" is doomed.


There, is that doomeristic enough for everyone? :)
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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby TheTurtle » Sat 06 Oct 2007, 17:17:59

It is certainly MY last century. :shock:
“Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.” (Ted Perry)
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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby americandream » Sun 07 Oct 2007, 02:16:09

mankind will not survive....too stupid, greedy and excessively arrogant.
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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby Harlequin » Sun 07 Oct 2007, 08:58:25

I seriously doubt mankind will die out.

Civilisation? Sure, but mankind itself is far too adaptable and widespread to be wiped out, eventually it will, but that is likely years and years away.
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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sun 07 Oct 2007, 09:14:02

I’m with you Turtle. I’ll be 100 at mid century.
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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sun 07 Oct 2007, 09:20:17

American Dream, I suspect the last flight out will be infested with attorneys and cockroaches. I would not write off either species too quickly.
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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby Quigley » Sun 07 Oct 2007, 16:31:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('M_B_S', 'W')e need a green revolution to fix the problem!

100% renewable energy untill 2030 or die off

Capitalism is eating the earth.

We human mankind must change our way of life

Its TIME !

M_B_S


Hallo M_B_S!

Ist es dir auf dem deutschen Forum zu langweilig geworden?
Verschone uns hier bitte mit deinen Panikmeldungen und Halbwahrheiten und geh woanders spielen!

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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby JEMASCOLA » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 22:32:31

I think that civilization will collapse and that many people will die, but I do not think that humans will be extinct.
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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby BobWallace » Wed 17 Oct 2007, 22:44:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JEMASCOLA', 'I') think that civilization will collapse and that many people will die, but I do not think that humans will be extinct.


By "civilization collapse" do you mean that we will return to caves, cook our food over campfires, and no longer perform Mozart or do you mean that we will no longer commute solo in our SUVs?
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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby JEMASCOLA » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 17:30:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BobWallace', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JEMASCOLA', 'I') think that civilization will collapse and that many people will die, but I do not think that humans will be extinct.


By "civilization collapse" do you mean that we will return to caves, cook our food over campfires, and no longer perform Mozart or do you mean that we will no longer commute solo in our SUVs?


In the long run, I don't think we will necessarily return to caves, but I don't think that we will live in a Jetsonesque future that many picture it to be. After the last few of us escape environmental disasters, riots, etc., it will be rough getting back on our feet again, so many of us will likely be impoverished. I do think that after we have a chance to clean up our mess and get things stable again, we will probably live similar to the way we did in the 1800s. Assuming resources were avaliable, we would probably have some slight technological advance over the 1800s era (not necessarily in the way of computers, though). However, I seriously doubt that any developed society will come close to what we have now.

For the future, I think we should perhaps live closer together and rely more heavily on mass transit. Additionally, I think that it would be ideal if the global population were far below 6.5 billion people (perhaps 1-2 billion at the most).
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Re: Is the 21st century our last one?

Unread postby BobWallace » Thu 18 Oct 2007, 22:07:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JEMASCOLA', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BobWallace', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JEMASCOLA', 'I') think that civilization will collapse and that many people will die, but I do not think that humans will be extinct.


By "civilization collapse" do you mean that we will return to caves, cook our food over campfires, and no longer perform Mozart or do you mean that we will no longer commute solo in our SUVs?


In the long run, I don't think we will necessarily return to caves, but I don't think that we will live in a Jetsonesque future that many picture it to be. After the last few of us escape environmental disasters, riots, etc., it will be rough getting back on our feet again, so many of us will likely be impoverished. I do think that after we have a chance to clean up our mess and get things stable again, we will probably live similar to the way we did in the 1800s. Assuming resources were avaliable, we would probably have some slight technological advance over the 1800s era (not necessarily in the way of computers, though). However, I seriously doubt that any developed society will come close to what we have now.

For the future, I think we should perhaps live closer together and rely more heavily on mass transit. Additionally, I think that it would be ideal if the global population were far below 6.5 billion people (perhaps 1-2 billion at the most).


Slight technological advances over the 1800s?

You have any idea what life was like in the 1800s? Or even in 1900? Or 1950?

There's no way in hell that we're going back to reading by oil lamps or even B&W TVs.

We won't abandon the information that we have accumulated to date. Nor will we abandon things like computers. To think so is just silly.

Obviously the world would be much better off with fewer people. We've over satisfied the commandment to "Go forth and multiply" or whatever it was.

We're likely, actually people in less likely and drier parts of the world are likely, to have some rough times ahead. People will most likely have to migrate to more hospitable climes and lots will suffer and die in the process.

But there's little reason why we won't make an eventual transition to a post-petroleum world.

Rather than let yourself get bummed out by the upcoming "end of the world" (which gets forecast every decade or so) spend some time getting up to speed on what we can do right now with "green" energy and conservation. That's what will pull us through in the US and elsewhere.
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