[athlete]

I make changes by taking smalls steps like influencing my City Council and educating people on topics like this. I ride a bike to show that change is possible by taking small steps. I am even thinking of joining a charity event that helps others while getting our green message out: http://www.agentsofchange.ca/projects/r ... -the-ride/

[americandream]

Nothing of any significance was ever done in small steps. Humanity is in effect a colony, not a collection of individuals. The cult of individualism helps perpetuate the culture of powerlessness and consequently delays change that can only come through mass revolutionary impulses.

[ohanian]

As for me...

I blame Canada


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzG7bBylRo

[benrk]

"Nothing of any significance was ever done in small steps."

Everything was started in small steps until it became a broad mass by the multitude of small individuals.
Change starts with YOU!

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'N')othing of any significance was ever done in small steps. Humanity is in effect a colony, not a collection of individuals. The cult of individualism helps perpetuate the culture of powerlessness and consequently delays change that can only come through mass revolutionary impulses.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'N')othing of any significance was ever done in small steps. Humanity is in effect a colony, not a collection of individuals. The cult of individualism helps perpetuate the culture of powerlessness and consequently delays change that can only come through mass revolutionary impulses.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'N')othing of any significance was ever done in small steps. Humanity is in effect a colony, not a collection of individuals. The cult of individualism helps perpetuate the culture of powerlessness and consequently delays change that can only come through mass revolutionary impulses.

[wisconsin_cur]

that and the french revolution

oh and the islamic revolution, though I guess that had some marxist hues to it (just don't tell them that).

Maybe the Orange Revolution?

There are of course many events where the top was cut off to be replaced by a major-general or what not. I'm guessing that you would n't include that. It seems like the question is defined in Marxist terms (only a Marxist revolution would suffice to qualify).


India's expulsion of the brits?

the chinese nationalist dislocation of the empereor?

the american revolution ( alot of tories had to go north)?

how about the republican revolution... (a lot of the democratic party assumptions were cast aside and changed the course of the Clinton Presidency)?

The Taliban takeover of Afghanistan?

The industrial revolution (new power bases dislocating the old)?

The enlightment (the movement of power from landed wealth to traders and tradesmen)?

Maybe I don't understand the statement?

[americandream]

Of all the ideas, only, I have to say, has marxism truly and dispassionately penetrated the convoluted journey of human history, the outcomes when certain factors prevail and the consequences when the elements of these factors contain contradictions (in capitalism, resource constraints). He identified the key players in capitalism and why each was positioned as they were. In the case of labour, he identifed them as the vanguard of the impulse for change simply because they have nothing to lose but their chains and yet are the core element of the human grouping, in sufficient numbers the bring about change in other words. Religion he identified not so much irrational, but duplicitious in as much as it promised pie in the sky in a bid to distract and stupify. Societial relationships such as the family he identified as malleable and isolated centres for the reinforcing of desired values including the sustainable production of labour resourcing.

[Ludi]

No, actually I was asking YOU specifically what YOU propose, americandream.


"Look at history" is not an answer to the question


"What do you, american dream, propose to do?"

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he only idea that ever posed a serious threat to the power of the ruling elites was marxism.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'N')o, actually I was asking YOU specifically what YOU propose, americandream.


"Look at history" is not an answer to the question


"What do you, american dream, propose to do?"

(edited for Ludi - TheTurtle)

[Ludi]

Oh man, you quoted me before I edited.


Durn.


Anyways, gotta go move some more dirt or something....


Enjoy your revolutions.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'O')h man, you quoted me before I edited.


Durn.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'N')o, actually I was asking YOU specifically what YOU propose, americandream.


"Look at history" is not an answer to the question


"What do you, american dream, propose to do?"

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'T')he only idea that ever posed a serious threat to the power of the ruling elites was marxism.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'P')ersonally, and I shall keep this brief and leave you to draw your own conclusions, I am actively engaged politically for change (and there are groups and sites that reflect a more scientific approach to the issue of history, heres a link to one....

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', ' ')being as we are members of the class of non-capital owners.

[americandream]

History is dispassionate....we will either survive or perish....this discussion is all about that. Whether I own capital, am an ardent advocate of my cause or drink green beer on Paddy's Day is irrelevant to the discussion...in fact who I am is not the issue, what is is whether individually we can act to a the degree sufficient to trigger change in what I assume we all believe is a crisis of increasingly terminal proportions involving the system we have devised or whether efforts should be increasingly of a collective nature. Clearly if you advocate the former, it would be useful if you could explain why minus the personal diatribes.

[Concerned]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'P')ersonally, and I shall keep this brief and leave you to draw your own conclusions, I am actively engaged politically for change (and there are groups and sites that reflect a more scientific approach to the issue of history, heres a link to one....