[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '
')We built this land once we can do it again.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'P')MS, there are wild pigs, deer, rabbits, turtles, snakes, birds, squirrels, pecans and berries (depending on the time of year), and many wild edible plants all over the place near where I live. I don't have to wait for my seeds to bear fruit. I am in the process of learning how to hunt, trap and process wild food now. Most, if not all, of my neighbors and friends here already know how and do so regularly.

Once you become aware that food doesn't really come from the grocery store, nor water from the tap, there's no reason not to learn how to take care of yourself. There are no guarantees in this life. There is no reason to fear independence. I'm not saying I've become fearless about all this stuff, not at all, but I'm getting there.

[PenultimateManStanding]

sorry, wrong thread. HOF. (though it is a pretty salient point)

[Pops]

I am beginning to understand the salient point here I think.

First, I am lucky that I happened to have been chosen by someone with similar aspirations and values as myself.

And second, as PMS has intimated five or 6 times, and to which I will agree; there is no good preparation for Armageddon – well, aside from repentance and surrender.

As I don’t subscribe to the idea of Armageddon, I am only left with doing what I can to prepare for what I see as the somewhat lesser case.

Obviously specifics are not salient…

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '.')..I lived in Newport Beach for a while and worked at South Coast Plaza...

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I') don't know what the population density of your area is, perhaps it's low enough. Perhaps if there are too many of you, the game will all be eaten. Someone pointed out that that is what happened in the Great Depression in many rural areas.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'A') friend of mine has a piece of land roughly 1.5 by 2.5 miles (however many acres that is) near here. Part of it is leased for cattle but it's mostly wooded and left alone, and it's undeveloped. There are so many hogs there it's hard to walk safely because the ground is so pitted and rough. I love that place, there are some great old trees there.

[TheTurtle]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', 'Y')ou won't have to grow food, food will grow and you'll eat it. Among many other good things I could mention. The transition is going to suck (understatement of the millennium) and all, but there's nothing to fear in the long run (which I don't expect to be around to see). Some of us who are preparing and planting/preserving seeds for the future will survive, if we don't go extinct.

[dinopello]

Watch survivor-man on Discovery for ideas. Last night he made grasshopper kabobs. He also showed how to trap and eat scorpions in an earlier show.