[Randombob]

This thread should keep you up at night!

Humanity has 2 choices. Both of them are bad for a majority of people living on Earth today.

No.1 - Ecocide, the continued rape of the environment and exponential growth of human numbers until every available resource has been consumed and a population die-off ensues. Global warming destroys what is left and rising seas floods vast areas of once fertile and habitable land. Think Easter Island times a billion.

No.2 - Genocide, the power Elite will kill off a large proportion of the “useless eaters” (ironic) in a way that would be the least painful for those privileged few. This would allow the ecosystems to be retained and restored, decrease the pressure on non-renewable resources to enable them to be used for an extra few hundred years (e.g. oil).

We are too far from home to return to a sustainable, symbiotic relationship with our planet or the ecosystems we once inhabited. Nearly 7 billion by 2010 and 8.5 billion by 2025 = not sustainable.

Humanity has no track record of being able to control its population fairly and humanely. Think of the ruckus surrounding Chinas 1 child policy. Without it we would be at Armageddon already, so what hope do we have of implementing this globally?

Thus, the question is this: Given that the power elite has access to a vast arsenal of WMD (nukes, chemicals and bacteriological) and control over the supply of fossil fuels (essential for food production), how do you think they are going to kill off the masses whilst retaining their own privileges?

Remember, to set off more than 1% of the nuke stockpile would cause a nuclear winter that would also render the planet useless for conquest.
Biological agents would have to have a cure or vaccine for the power elite, at a suitably astronomical price.
Chemical agents would have to guarantee to kill only the poor people (think poisoning of water supply) and not every living thing – otherwise its ecocide.
My guess is that they would choke off the oil/gas supply causing widespread starvation, power loss and water supply failure. The surviving populations in them pesky poor countries would then get a good dose of plague (or derivatives) to sort them out. The Elites then lord it for a while in a nice warm place with lots of oil, water and food until the corpses rot away…. sounds a bit like the Middle East to me…hmmm.

LOL

PS

Just thought I'd add that conventional warfare does not reduce the population of the world as dramatically or permanantly as the other nasty ways described. Just look at WW1 where 19 million folk died or were wounded in 6 years of conflict and then , in 1919, Spanish flu (influenza) killed that number worldwide in a year.
Or, the baby boom after WW2. 52 million died in WW2 but every year this century (in each and every single one) 82 million are born in peacetime.

So how are you going to invest your time now, huh?

Just a thought.

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[PolestaR]

I'm thinking they'll probably start by putting weird chemicals in shampoo and fake tan formula.

[sittinguy]

economic collapse = hyperinflation = eventuall riots= round ups into camps separating men and women = no kids = problem solved in 1 generation.
or something simple like, birdflu, that would make everyone afraid to riot in fear of getting sick,, until they got really hungry.
alot of elites would be targets for angry people if tshtf.
I'm happy being a poor man in a small town with a few supplies.
just because someone is an elite does not mean they will be any better prepared than an average person. they more than us think, nothing could ever happen here in the US like that. They might have a million $ in the bank but when the stores are empty, thier empty. There won't be a specail store just for them to stock up. If they don't prepare now they will be screwed too

[eastbay]

It's goint to be a big wet mess.

[Chesire]

A 'false crisis' disrupts the petroleum infrastructure for 2 months resulting in a 40 % population decrease.

It will not be a bio weapon . If they had a gene targeted bio weapon that was guranteed to not mutate and kill everyone. The paint wouldn't have time to dry on the missle casing before it was launched.


Nuclear weapons are to risky and if one goes off a lot more will too.

Frankly if food/water/heat/healthcare were not available for 30 days there would be a huge population drop in the developed world.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Randombob', 'H')umanity has no track record of being able to control its population fairly and humanely.

[basil_hayden]

Elite, ROFLMAO

The Elite won't purge the masses.

The masses will purge the masses in an attempt to become the mythical Elite.

[Specop_007]

The outright insanity I read here never fails to amuse me.

Seriously folks. Do you *really* believe theres some Elite group planning to kill upteen billions of people?

please, if you truly and honestly believe theres some evil powerful group of ultra elites planning to kill billions raise you hand.

[Grifter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Randombob', '
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We are too far from home to return to a sustainable, symbiotic relationship with our planet or the ecosystems we once inhabited. Nearly 7 billion by 2010 and 8.5 billion by 2025 = not sustainable.

[dukey]

codex alimentarius
=
food as weapon

[da23]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')he outright insanity I read here never fails to amuse me.

Seriously folks. Do you *really* believe theres some Elite group planning to kill upteen billions of people?

please, if you truly and honestly believe theres some evil powerful group of ultra elites planning to kill billions raise you hand.

[Judgie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')he outright insanity I read here never fails to amuse me.

Seriously folks. Do you *really* believe theres some Elite group planning to kill upteen billions of people?

please, if you truly and honestly believe theres some evil powerful group of ultra elites planning to kill billions raise you hand.

[perdition79]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'c')odex alimentarius
=
food as weapon

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('da23', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')he outright insanity I read here never fails to amuse me.

Seriously folks. Do you *really* believe theres some Elite group planning to kill upteen billions of people?

please, if you truly and honestly believe theres some evil powerful group of ultra elites planning to kill billions raise you hand.

[da23]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'T')he only lives that depend on me are....me.....

[threadbear]

Will the Elite purge the masses? We'll likely do it to each other, if at all. I have seen the enema and the enema is us!

[Ferretlover]

HHmm... how about one of those 'nuclear attack practice runs' going "horribly wrong-so sorry!"

[greenworm]

According to a guy named Dr. John Coleman, can't think of the book, the elite wish to purge humanity to a nice manageable 1 billion.

No use crying over it, let us laugh.

I bet 2012 is the year where the S hits the F.

[Randombob]

If you look up websites like this www.foundation.bw/IsAmericaFascist.htm it becomes a bit clearer. The logic of it is undeniable. The fascist psychopaths who emigrate to positions of power do not consider any other human to have more that 2 dimensions and that these underlings have been placed on this earth to service the elites desires. The twisted logic of this is as undeniable as it is inevitable and it will lead to more "final solutions" but on a vastly vast scale. Uber. All I am writing is the outcome of the equation. Supply and Demand. Hierarchical society. Finite resources and exponential growth. It is inevitable, unfortunately (for us that is).