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Unread postby kochevnik » Fri 18 May 2007, 23:03:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', 'w')omen really appreciate honesty.




BWHAHAHAHAHA !!!

I think that's BOTH the dumbest and the funniest thing I think I have ever read on the internet.

The number of women who 'appreciate' honesty on this planet can be counted with a book of matches (not that men are much better).

Finding someone is a numbers game - that's why I married a Chinese girl - there's more of them than any other kind on the planet :)

Personally, if were single (which thank god I'm not) I would go with the brutally honest approach (hey someone wins the lottery) and I would go for women from poorer countries. When the shit hits the fan - they will be already hard-wired to handle it.

And waiting for the crash to find someone is a very bad idea. It's like a guy who gets rich and then he has to wonder if every girl is after him or his money.
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby kochevnik » Sat 19 May 2007, 00:11:31

Yes you do.

So there's one less match in the book. :)
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby virgincrude » Sat 19 May 2007, 04:56:18

virgincrude wrote:
women really appreciate honesty.

Quote:
"BWHAHAHAHAHA !!!

I think that's BOTH the dumbest and the funniest thing I think I have ever read on the internet. "

Great, good for you Kochev, says VOLUMES about your kind of women.

Shany's not the only one. From male posters on this thread I'd say you're all looking for a product or an object, not a woman. None of you seem to have much understanding of what a woman is, but then again, maybe women like Shany and me are in short supply (Peak Women?)
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby Ebyss » Sat 19 May 2007, 05:48:37

Nope - count me in for the "honest guy" vote. And my sister. And my mom. And my aunts. And my grandma.

Wow - that's a lot of matches, how much room is left in that book?
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby What_Went_Wrong » Sat 19 May 2007, 07:42:12

Some food for thought in this thread.

I am only attracted to white women, but I do hear some of your comments on some women in minorities being better equipped to cope with hardships. I also agree it would be kinda shitty to find a women during the depression because chances are she will only be after your stock piles :P

Well, guess I better start putting myself out there. I work in a pub on the weekends but I the kinda women I’m after probably does not frequent such a place.
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby Evltre » Sat 19 May 2007, 08:04:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('What_Went_Wrong', 'I') never even considered just coming out with it like that in a personal ad. What have I got to lose right?

Hmmm just need something catchy for the ad.

'Doomer seeks women for apocalyptic times. Must have GSOH and be able to wash cloths by hand.'

Maybe not...


Edit the bit about the washing of the clothes and you might have a bit more luck :P How about "I will wash YOUR clothes by hand". They'll be banging down your door!

But back to your problem... an ad is not a stupid idea, honesty is imperative, but don't go overboard on the "hoarding guns/flesh eating zombies" stuff (if you are that way inclined). In my experience women don't tend to like it very much, can start the old "nutter alert" sensor tingling. Well, this is mostly the case in NZ where we associate that type of thing with a certain personality type that's not particularly attractive to a lot of us - not sure how it is over there? Sure a "manly" man is a good thing, but a chauvinistic macho one is to be avoided.

Of course the above only really applies if you want a "partner", not a trophy. A strong partnership motivates, supports and enriches your life, I could think of nothing worse than a PO future without my man.
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby Evltre » Sat 19 May 2007, 08:16:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '[')url=http://casaubonsbook.blogspot.com/2007/05/sustainable-marriage.html]Link[/url] to a relevant article.


Great link!
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby SevenTen » Sat 19 May 2007, 09:46:37

Some women will reward a man for honesty.

Some women say they will reward a man for honesty.

The proof is in the pudding.

If your attempt at honesty is sincere and you get dumped for it ... "Next!"

Besides, "honesty" and "the realities of energy depletion" are as different as "bat guano you use to fertilize your orchids" and "devastating, enduring shit-storm".

You will not likely get rewarded for PO-style honesty. Which is good, because she wasn't going to be able to handle the reality, anyway.
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby What_Went_Wrong » Sat 19 May 2007, 09:54:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Evltre', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('What_Went_Wrong', 'I') never even considered just coming out with it like that in a personal ad. What have I got to lose right?

Hmmm just need something catchy for the ad.

'Doomer seeks women for apocalyptic times. Must have GSOH and be able to wash cloths by hand.'

Maybe not...


Edit the bit about the washing of the clothes and you might have a bit more luck :P How about "I will wash YOUR clothes by hand". They'll be banging down your door!



HAHA yeah no doubt :) I was only messing, infact I am pretty good with the housework, the last 2 gf's I had were slobs compared to me (I like a well organized environment, I find I can think and relax better that way)

I find that the sort of women I'm attracted to does really appreciate honesty, but they do seem to be in short supply, but I suspect that's because you will not find these kinda women while in a pub or nightclub. (or if they are there, then they are to drunk to spot :P)

BTW thanks ludi, that was a good link to read.

@ cestlavie: Yeah that is infact true. There are women out there who just appreciate nature and looking after the environment. If I met someone with that kind of mind set, then it's not really that important she understands peak oil right away.

It's interesting to see that only one poster in this thread so far thinks that we might be better off alone, for some reason I was expecting more in that mindset.

As always, thanks for reading and responding everyone.
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby Iaato » Sun 30 Sep 2007, 16:54:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('What_Went_Wrong', ' ')So what now? well here is my problem. I don't think I could form a relationship based on trust and honesty (the only kind i'll do) without telling them about my plans for peak oil fairly soon into it. I mean, it affects everything I do and think about, especially now. Problem is, not many girls will stick around after they see you are a doomer (or crazy, in their eyes) wasting all this time and effort preparing for whats to come. I mean, I would hold off on talking about it for a while but a hardened doomer like me believes there is no time.

Or, I could wait for the crash to kick in, and take my pick from all the women looking for someone to lead them to safety (natural section could be fun for the prepared after all), hell maybe I can get more then one at a time that way :) Seriously though, I really wish I had a partner already who would have known me long enough to forgive my 'crazy' ramblings. I fear I'll be fighting, and maybe dieing, alone, at a fairly young age.


Not so, What Went Wrong. I just spent a couple of days in a yurt (5 women and 5 dogs), and a main topic of discussion was peak oil and how to deal with it. Friends who have listened patiently to me for years about peak oil are now actively engaging in the conversation. Now is the time to find women who may have been uninformed about peak oil, but are now awakening to it and actively engaged in changing things. The other four women on this trip were all intelligent and gorgeous, and two were single, by the way. They're out there if you look.

I'm going to call bullshit on the "women looking for someone to lead them to safety." You really want an anchor like that during an era of serious change? Do you want a partner or do you want a bimbo? Women who are peak oil aware currently are simply not the clingy dependent types. If you want a peak oil aware partner, you're not going to find them at the singles bar. And you'll have to put up with someone who is probably intelligent, strong-willed, and not easy to push around. Virgin Crude is absolutely right that women like that will only accept honesty, and can smell bullshit a mile away. Senor Savinar is right, though. You don't need to present yourself as a doomer at the far end of the continuum if you want to attract the stable ones.

I've been Peak Oil aware since about 1970 (51/F). My husband of ~30 years has been patiently tolerant of my peak oil rants which have become increasingly strident and prolific. But it is only in the past 6 months that he has totally swallowed the Kool-Aid. He sees the changes in the economy, and the changes in energy supply, and they match everything I've been saying. It's a huge relief to me to see him as a complete partner in this. It's interesting to watch his transition. He went to a seminar in Charlottesville last week (Brookings Institution), and could not relate to any of the speakers or the attendees. I had to laugh to hear the familiar words out of his mouth, "I felt like I was on another planet." I think he tried a couple of feeble forays into Peak Oil while everyone else was talking about the Jetson jet-pack future, but no one even knew what Peak Oil was. Most of the discussion centered around the future of globalization, and the future of the American empire. One author alluded to parallels with Rome, but suggested that Nero was decades off. And this was from elite business authors and our senior government leadership. The thing he took away from that meeting was a new resolve to get the region actively teleconferencing as a starting point in working on sustainable function.

What I'm seeing right now is that all of my open-minded, intelligent friends are starting to believe me and openly discuss the changes needed in our society. Open-minded intelligent people are in a minority in the US right now, but they're out there. Be honest, be yourself, DON'T be gloomy, and you'll get the girl.
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby Judgie » Mon 01 Oct 2007, 01:45:03

^^^^^^^^^^ WHAT SHE SAID

I couldn't put it better myself :)

Word of advice: If you can (i.e. you're a younger man or woman (late teens, early 20's, at university/college, etc and you're a peaker), find a scout around your age. You won't in most cases find a more honest, understanding, usually quite intelligent girlfriend/boyfriend/ potential future partner, than a scout. The bonus is they already know bushcraft/ how to live with the minimum, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc, you get the idea ;)

I did :D. Best thing i've ever done in my life. But then i've never really been a "screw everything with two legs and a skirt that moves" kind of guy. She keeps telling me "you're not like all the others". Still don't know quite what to think about that......


P.S.

If you do slip up one night and go all "doomerish" and maybe other personal stuff as well, if she's still there and loving you at the end, and actually listened to even a little of what you said, even if some of it is just plain unrelated shite, then:

(1) Do not let her go. Love her, squeeze her, hug her, TALK TO HER and especially, be on the level and honest with her.

(2)
Don't f**k up again. And enjoy the global consumerism party while it lasts, while running small preparation tasks in the background if you can, if she wants in, let her.
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby Opies » Wed 03 Oct 2007, 22:36:13

people and sheep dont have very good chemistry
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby Nicholai » Wed 03 Oct 2007, 22:46:09

I'm 18 years old and I'm currently in Economics. There are about 3 girls for every guy and its STILL hard to find a girl. If you're interested in Peak Oil, Climate Change or anything other then Beer & Boobs, you're a nerd/weirdo/crazy person in the eyes of most decent looking girls. At least when you're older you're allowed to be intelligent and smart, since its considered more acceptable, but when you're my age, reading Noam Chomsky or Mathew Simmons is a taboo beyond all others. My conclusion: I WISH I NEVER KNEW ABOUT PEAK OIL FOR JUST A LITTLE WHILE SO I COULD ACTUALLY BE AN 18 YR OLD FOR JUST A COUPLE MONTHS INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT COLLAPSE GHAHHHHHHH!!!!!

I needed to vent. Many thanks.
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby Judgie » Thu 04 Oct 2007, 01:27:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Opies', 'p')eople and sheep dont have very good chemistry


I'm not quite sure if that was meant for me or the thread in general Opies?

Either way, very true sir, very true :D
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Re: New relationships for a peaker mindset

Unread postby Judgie » Thu 04 Oct 2007, 01:29:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nicholai', 'I')'m 18 years old and I'm currently in Economics. There are about 3 girls for every guy and its STILL hard to find a girl. If you're interested in Peak Oil, Climate Change or anything other then Beer & Boobs, you're a nerd/weirdo/crazy person in the eyes of most decent looking girls. At least when you're older you're allowed to be intelligent and smart, since its considered more acceptable, but when you're my age, reading Noam Chomsky or Mathew Simmons is a taboo beyond all others. My conclusion: I WISH I NEVER KNEW ABOUT PEAK OIL FOR JUST A LITTLE WHILE SO I COULD ACTUALLY BE AN 18 YR OLD FOR JUST A COUPLE MONTHS INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLY THINKING ABOUT COLLAPSE GHAHHHHHHH!!!!!

I needed to vent. Many thanks.


Ok, the best thing you can do is to do as i said above, and STFU about it when you're around the object of your affection (unless she's actually interested and wishes to know OR already knows about it), her friends, her family, etc. Also, understand that there isn't too much you can do about whats coming, and learn to enjoy whats left of the party while it's still going strong :)
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