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How Exactly Do Fossils Make Fuel?
Re: How Exactly Do Fossils Make Fuel?
by TheDude » Mon 01 Oct 2007, 09:36:30
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lawnchair', 'I') guess that the abiotic oil believers, put together, just can't afford a rig?
Thomas Gold persuaded the Swedish government to spend millions on a borehole in a meteorite crater, where he figured there'd be some abiotic oil. The yield was 80 barrels - which was most likely just the oil used for lubrication of the drill. Bust! Of course we haven't persuaded the governments and corporations of the world to spend further millions attempting to justify these theories. Wildcatting is a spendy enterprise.
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Re: How Exactly Do Fossils Make Fuel?
by OilIsMastery » Tue 02 Oct 2007, 12:17:59
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '[')url=http://www.energybulletin.net/2423.html]The "Abiotic Oil" Controversy[/url].
In the Abiotic Oil "Controversy" Richard Heinberg claims:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')he temperatures at depths below about 15,000 feet are high enough (above 275 degrees F) to break hydrocarbon bonds. What remains after these molecular bonds are severed is methane, whose molecule contains only a single carbon atom. For petroleum geologists this is not just a matter of theory, but of repeated and sometimes costly experience: they speak of an oil “window” that exists from roughly 7,500 feet to 15,000 feet, within which temperatures are appropriate for oil formation; look far outside the window, and you will most likely come up with a dry hole or, at best, natural gas only.
However according to Transocean they have drilled successful oil wells over 30,189 feet below the mudline in over 4000 feet of water. This is twice as far below the 15,000 foot limit claimed by Heinberg. I'm sorry but the hydrocarbon bonds do not break up at depths below 15,000 feet.
Richard Heinberg has no idea what he is talking about.
According to the BBC, the deepest fossil ever discovered was 7382 feet below the sea floor.
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Re: How Exactly Do Fossils Make Fuel?
by AlCzervik » Tue 02 Oct 2007, 12:22:37
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Re: How Exactly Do Fossils Make Fuel?
by jboogy » Tue 02 Oct 2007, 13:10:38
What difference does it make ? What is irrefutable is gasoline costs 2.70 a gallon here now . 6 years ago I remember seeing .99 cents in PA . If there is an abiotic origin to oil it's woefully inadequate to offsetting depletion rates . And isn't that all that really matters ?
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Re: How Exactly Do Fossils Make Fuel?
by jboogy » Tue 02 Oct 2007, 13:12:08
What difference does it make ? What is irrefutable is gasoline costs 2.70 a gallon here now . 6 years ago I remember seeing .99 cents in PA . If there is an abiotic origin to oil it's woefully inadequate to offsetting depletion rates . And isn't that all that really matters ?
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Re: How Exactly Do Fossils Make Fuel?
by jboogy » Tue 02 Oct 2007, 13:12:44
What difference does it make ? What is irrefutable is gasoline costs 2.70 a gallon here now . 6 years ago I remember seeing .99 cents in PA . If there is an abiotic origin to oil it's woefully inadequate to offsetting depletion rates . And isn't that all that really matters ?
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Re: How Exactly Do Fossils Make Fuel?
by OilIsMastery » Tue 02 Oct 2007, 13:19:47
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'W')hat difference does it make ? What is irrefutable is gasoline costs 2.70 a gallon here now . 6 years ago I remember seeing .99 cents in PA.
Caused by inflation and supply and demand, not caused by peak oil.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f there is an abiotic origin to oil it's woefully inadequate to offsetting depletion rates . And isn't that all that really matters ?
http://www.rense.com/general63/refil.htm
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'K')ennicutt, a faculty member at Texas A&M University, said it is now clear that gas and oil are coming into the known reservoirs very rapidly in terms of geologic time. The inflow of new gas, and some oil, has been detectable in as little as three to 10 years.
http://www.geotimes.org/june03/NN_gulf.html
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')elow the Gulf of Mexico, hydrocarbons flow upward through an intricate network of conduits and reservoirs. They start in thin layers of source rock and, from there, buoyantly rise to the surface. On their way up, the hydrocarbons collect in little rivulets, and create temporary pockets like rain filling a pond. Eventually most escape to the ocean. And, this is all happening now, not millions and millions of years ago, says Larry Cathles, a chemical geologist at Cornell University.
"We're dealing with this giant flow-through system where the hydrocarbons are generating now, moving through the overlying strata now, building the reservoirs now and spilling out into the ocean now," Cathles says.
He's bringing this new view of an active hydrocarbon cycle to industry, hoping it will lead to larger oil and gas discoveries. By matching the chemical signatures of the oil and gas with geologic models for the structures below the seafloor, petroleum geologists could tap into reserves larger than the North Sea, says Cathles, who presented his findings at the meeting of the American Chemical Society in New Orleans on March 27.
