[lateralus]

Canadians are not stupid enough to join a union with the dickwads that run the United States. It's an American fantasy not a Canadian one.

[Blacksmith]

We did join in Free Trade! We just though the y'alls would play fair, oh well cheat me once shame on you.

[Denny]

It seems you USAnians are afeared of us Canuckleheads. 'Least that's what CBS news says, right 'chere:

CBS News: "The Threat From The North"

" To combat drug smuggling and illegal immigration, the federal government is fortifying the Mexican border -- adding thousands of new patrol agents, surveillance cameras, sensors and unmanned aerial drones.

In contrast, the Canadian border is a 5,000 mile expanse, which a new government investigation warns may be a welcome mat for terrorists with weapons of mass destruction.

A report by the Government Accountability Office obtained by CBS News concludes: "A determined cross-border violator would likely be able to bring radioactive materials ... undetected into the United States..."

Over eight months, government investigators crossed the northern border unchallenged at least six times, carrying a small duffel bag meant to represent a "dirty bomb." The teams did not carry any real explosives or radioactive material, but carried simulated cargo, that, upon further inspection, would have seemed suspiciously like the real thing. "

Damn! Its enough ovvercome the botox and raise one of Katie Couric's sensual eyebrows!

But, seriously, isn't it high time that Canada and the U.S. developed identical drug, firearms, immigration and customs rules, and then the homeland security and immigration forces could be deployed to Canada's coasts and airports, and we both could enjoy an open border? Just as it works within Europe now for members of the EU? Just think of how much more efficient that would be for both parties, and it would speed up shipping and vacationers. I bet most Americans wouldn't know Calgary from Denver if they didn't see the odd Canadian flag. I really think our way of life is so similar, even more similar than say, Spain and France, who share an open border now inthe E.U.

Its the otusiders who are feared, I am sure its not the Canadians. And, likewise, Canadians only fear Americans carrying guns.

[Bytesmiths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', '.').. isn't it high time that Canada and the U.S. developed identical drug, firearms, immigration and customs rules, and then the homeland security and immigration forces could be deployed to Canada's coasts and airports, and we both could enjoy an open border?

[Denny]

[quote="Bytesmiths
So you want the US Homeland Security Agency in charge of Canada's borders? Might as well just give up and plunk a red maple leaf down next to the 50 blue stars on the US flag.

I don't really like the idea of being under their "thumb" as it were, but if we could come up with a common set of rules and cusotms officer certification, woudl it not be more efficient to just focus on the external, foreign risks,a nd avoid worrhying about the US-Canada border. I'd bet we spend a lot of money, and so does the U.S. just on that imaginary line separating Canda and the U.S. What real value added is that?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') really think our way of life is so similar, even more similar than say, Spain and France...

[cantom]

I'm not in favour of giving up one iota of our sovereignty to anyone...the whole idea is laughable...try selling that to people, good luck with that.

[Bytesmiths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cantom', '.')..try selling that to people, good luck with that.

[RdSnt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', '
')But, seriously, isn't it high time that Canada and the U.S. developed identical drug, firearms, immigration and customs rules, and then the homeland security and immigration forces could be deployed to Canada's coasts and airports, and we both could enjoy an open border? Just as it works within Europe now for members of the EU? Just think of how much more efficient that would be for both parties, and it would speed up shipping and vacationers. I bet most Americans wouldn't know Calgary from Denver if they didn't see the odd Canadian flag. I really think our way of life is so similar, even more similar than say, Spain and France, who share an open border now inthe E.U.

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', '
')I'm fine with this provided the Americans want to adopt Canadian laws and enforcement methods. We've demonstrated a far more effective system than the US, why would be take so many steps backwards.
I'm sure many Americans would appreciate and actual, effective set of laws and security.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', ' ')But, I think many Americans would balk at the gun controls. Perhaps they could take a serious look at eliminating the second amendment from the Bill of Rights, if it could lead to a harmonous customs union. I think we all need to focus more on the higher efficiency this would lead to, and perhaps less Homeland Security and CBSA agents required, and less on national autonomy.

[Denny]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', ' ')But, I think many Americans would balk at the gun controls. Perhaps they could take a serious look at eliminating the second amendment from the Bill of Rights, if it could lead to a harmonous customs union. I think we all need to focus more on the higher efficiency this would lead to, and perhaps less Homeland Security and CBSA agents required, and less on national autonomy.

[Tyler_JC]

What about a basic customs union/free trade area?

That's how the EU got started.

Oh yeah...NAFTA...

[Bytesmiths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', '[')... if you look at Europe, they have adapted to many laws and standards that cut across the EU. Things like immigration standards, minimum wage, environmental standards.

[Denny]

For those worried that the U.S. would dominate a free border arrangement, well, just look at this, even today, the U.S. dominates. See Rogers: "U.S. Peace activists denired entry to Canada"

"[b][i] NIAGARA FALLS, N.Y. - U.S. peace activists Medea Benjamin and Ann Wright have had a tough time entering Canada lately because their names send up red flags in border agents' computers.

Both women have been arrested in the United States protesting against the Iraq war, which has landed them in an international criminal database. When they visited Canada in August, they were told they would have to apply for "criminal rehabilitation" and pay $200 if they ever wanted to visit again. Neither applied.

On Wednesday, Benjamin, co-founder of the anti-war group Code Pink, and Wright, a retired U.S. army colonel, walked into Canada at Niagara Falls to test whether they really would be denied entry because of their anti-war-related arrests.

They were."

Strange or what. An international "criminal" database for being a war protestor? I find it literally amazing that Canada charges $200 to make an application for "criminal rehabilitation" too, whatever that is. What a scam.

I also find it amazing that some drug using pond scum in the entertainment field find it no problem to enter Canada. I guess money talks. Its the ultimate passport.

[Bytesmiths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', 'F')or those worried that the U.S. would dominate a free border arrangement, well, just look at this, even today, the U.S. dominates.

[Cynus]

Here's a video allegedly showing North American Union police (with the NAU symbol on their uniforms) in California:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread306503/pg1

[Ferretlover]

While I recognise it certainly would suit the creators of the NAU to have the public creating all sorts of misinformation, I think I would like a bit more proof that the patches on those men represent the NAU.
There seems to be several logos that claim to be NAU patches.
Anybody in CA want to investigate this?
Or, supposedly, NC has printed NAU driver's licenses. Anybody know anything about that?
Supposedly, the Denver mint closed down last month 'for construction,' but there are claims that it was closed to the public to stamp and ship out the 'Ameros.'

See what I mean?

[Bytesmiths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cynus', 'H')ere's a video allegedly showing North American Union police (with the NAU symbol on their uniforms)...

[Blacksmith]

[quote="BytesmithsI'm more than a little nervous about what an estimated 130,000 Blackwater mercenaries are going to do for a living when they come home from Iraq.[/quote]

Samething that happened to the South Africans who worked for Executive Solutions.

[Micki]

Did anyone see this and can confirm???
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')os Angeles, CA (Oct. 10, 2007) -- Speaking on the Larry King show, former Mexican President Vicente Fox confirmed every assertion made by Jerome Corsi in his new book, NY Times bestseller "The Late Great U.S.A: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada" (WND Books, ISBNs 0-9790451-4-2, $25.95, July 2007). Not only did Fox admit that he and George W. Bush have "agreed" to create a common currency, the Amero, he contended that a North American Union is "inevitable"