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What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly Reports?

Unread postby joewp » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 00:54:40

I've been monitoring this report for a couple of years now. It's always released well before the 15th of the month, as far as I can remember. It's available here, but you can only get the August release, the September edition is promised for "Early September, 2007" and I'm wondering where it is being that it's the 20th of September already.

Does anybody have a clue why this report is delayed? It's supposed to show June's world oil production and I have some charts I'd like to update. One wonders why it hasn't been released yet. Could it be the numbers are so shockingly low that it would confirm a May, 2005 (or May, 2006 for all liquids) peak and the beginnings of a precipitous decline?

In the absence of this report, we can only speculate what June's world oil production was, and the absence of this report doesn't make it look like it was a good number.
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby BrazilianPO » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 02:02:11

One can only speculate that the numbers will be bad. Let me just put my tin foil hat before I say this.... OK, done! :-D Or perhaps they are deciding with some big fishes "Should we put the real numbers or cook them up a little bit?" :P
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 02:45:16

Sure sounds odd. Is it yet another piece of the big jigsaw puzzle being snapped into place? Are the numbers so low that they feel they have to double-check them?

Who knows, but the delay could be caused by the additional time required to confirm them.

Keep in mind, we've had three straight days of record oil prices, with no unusual events (Gulf hurricanes, military skirmishes, etc.) taking place. Could it be that the traders have gotten wind of the numbers?
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby Doly » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 07:26:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '
')Keep in mind, we've had three straight days of record oil prices, with no unusual events (Gulf hurricanes, military skirmishes, etc.) taking place. Could it be that the traders have gotten wind of the numbers?


Well, the dollar has been falling, and every time that the dollar falls oil goes up (you could say it's an automatic correction for dollar inflation). So it may not mean anything sinister.

On the other hand, a delay on a report... who knows what that could mean?
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby skeptik » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 09:54:29

well I just looked, its there now.

Havent read it yet
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby joewp » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 10:11:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skeptik', 'w')ell I just looked, its there now.

Havent read it yet


So the EIA reads this board... how interesting. 8)

Well, the numbers are in and it doesn't look good. June 2007 production (CO&LC) of 72.8mb/d, that's the lowest since August, 2004 and 1.4mb/d (or 1.8%) off the peak in May, 2005.

To quote Dr. Bartlett "So the numbers are holding together as we march down the right-hand side of the Hubbert curve".

It's starting to get scary. If this starts to accelerate, we're in big trouble. Or should I say "When this starts to accelerate"?
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 14:38:32

holy shit...72.8. 8O Were using something like 85 million barrels a day...How can opec stand by and do nothing. a 13 million barrel deficit is going to devestate things. But once again this wont be front page news :!:
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby joewp » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 16:56:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', 'h')oly shit...72.8. 8O Were using something like 85 million barrels a day...How can opec stand by and do nothing. a 13 million barrel deficit is going to devestate things. But once again this wont be front page news :!:


Woah! Put the eyes back in your head Troyboy. I was quoting the Crude Oil and Lease Condensate number, in other words real oil. The EIA's "total liquids" number is 84.49mb/d which is still down from the July, 2006 peak of 85.52 by 1.03mb/d or 1.2%.
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 18:45:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', '.')..The EIA's "total liquids" number is 84.49mb/d which is still down from the July, 2006 peak of 85.52 by 1.03mb/d or 1.2%.

How can anybody deny that we're on the "undulating plateau"?
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby Geko45 » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 19:47:29

Whoa! Looks like there was a major revision this month in how they count all liquids. Everything in the link below that is in bold-italics represents a revised number. The figures for total world oil supply and OAPEC have been revised all the way back to the beginning of the IPM. That is the first time I've seen them revise figures back that far. They normally limit themselves to the past 12 months or so. I don't know why they choose to do this or what the impact is yet, but I will try and find out. Does anybody here know anything?

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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby joewp » Thu 20 Sep 2007, 20:45:14

According to here:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '(')2) Petroleum production data for 1980-2005 have been revised to match data in the recently released Petroleum Production Time Series Tables of the International Energy Annual 2005. Revised data are shown in bold italic font..


'Course, that doesn't explain the revisions for 2006/7, but we're still showing a peak in July, 2006 and a big drop from May to June of this year of 800,000 some barrels. They might have fudged the numbers but the results the same. Maybe they added in ethanol from human corpses? 8O
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Re: What happened to the I'ntl Petroleum Monthly?

Unread postby Troyboy1208 » Fri 21 Sep 2007, 12:24:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Troyboy1208', 'h')oly shit...72.8. 8O Were using something like 85 million barrels a day...How can opec stand by and do nothing. a 13 million barrel deficit is going to devestate things. But once again this wont be front page news :!:


Woah! Put the eyes back in your head Troyboy. I was quoting the Crude Oil and Lease Condensate number, in other words real oil. The EIA's "total liquids" number is 84.49mb/d which is still down from the July, 2006 peak of 85.52 by 1.03mb/d or 1.2%.


whew! ok thanks i got really scared...
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