[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')These are difficult issues for me.

[TheDude]

There are people who latch onto peak oil as a vindication of dark desires. Their postings - or Kunstler's books/ClusterFucks - make this pretty obvious. JHK wants to see all this horrible suburban junk ripped up for firewood, so we can go back to Anytown USA, rail lines, apartments above shops selling fresh produce, horse drawn buggies. You know, Norman Rockwell. He exudes revulsion at what's replaced it, and dismisses any evidence of schemes that would allow the current paradigm to continue, as do so many here. He isn't interested in or motivated to really prepare for survival, either - remember that Savinar asked him how ready he was in the BOB etc. department, fresh water, supplies. He had maybe an extra bottle of aspirin.

Many think their negativism will do people a favor in the end, that they'll keep people from wasting time trying to continue to conduct business as usual. From their perspective their actions are actually positive, and perhaps they're right. I doubt there's much an individual can do with much more than a small community to sway opinion. Perhaps they view this forum as such a community.

[aldente]

There is this fellow who claims that it is possible to calibrate truth vs. falsehood named David Hawkins. He works with kinesiology primarily.

Since this takes two and I for the most time don't have anyone to ask to hold out the arm I started to use a pendulum which leads to some results as well (mixed ones but nevertheless results).

In his arbitrary scale from 1 to 1000 the critical point of integrity is at 200. When calibrating PO.com it reaches a mere 175 points (the same as any military institution btw), which would explain why Peak Oilers are a negative bunch.

Nothing wrong with that in the first place or is there?!

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')t's a matter of survival. Why is survival important to me? Because it's important to my husband.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'T')here is this fellow who claims that it is possible to calibrate truth vs. falsehood named David Hawkins. He works with kinesiology primarily.

Since this takes two and I for the most time don't have anyone to ask to hold out the arm I started to use a pendulum which leads to some results as well (mixed ones but nevertheless results).

In his arbitrary scale from 1 to 1000 the critical point of integrity is at 200. When calibrating PO.com it reaches a mere 175 points (the same as any military institution btw), which would explain why Peak Oilers are a negative bunch.

Nothing wrong with that in the first place or is there?!

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'I') will continue to find joy in this vale of tears even on its final day, in the unlikely event that I should live to see it. At the same time, my view that we're headed for the ashcan is unshakeable.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')isconsin cur seems to see a benefit in seeing "things as they are" but does not say why that is beneficial.

[aldente]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')I just got his book from the library.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '
')I just got his book from the library.

[Kristen]

I'm not negative, I just don't have unrealistic expectations.

[RacerJace]

This question is analogous to the "Doomer" versus "Realist" argument. I don't believe I'm a negative person but I often get called that by people that want to dismiss my view of the future. There should be a distinction between factual based critical thinking, cynicsim and outright negativity by the emotional response. Sometimes the truth hurts and that hurt is often wrongly interpreted as negativity. Cognitive dissonance condures powerful emotions in most people. It can produce anger and even violence in some.

People that label me as negative make me consider them as having low emotional IQ , especially when I know I am being honest and gracious. It's true that if you tell an emotionally imature fat person they're fat, they'll usually confuse ungracious with negative. I have a fairly dark and dry sense of humor so that combined with a "tell it like it is" attitude can have negative consequences.

I'm an engineer and I'm trained to practice robust design. A big part of that process is discovering and understanding all the problems so that the appropriate solutions can be included in the design. For me, when the glass is greater than 50% it's half full and when the glass is less than 50% it's time to get another beer.

I have a "expect the worst and hope for the best" mindset. So when I realised what Peak Oil means I dug in reeeaally deep. Technology used to be my god so you can imagine the grieving I've been through and still going through since I took the red pill.

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[Ferretlover]

"when the glass is greater than 50% it's half full and when the glass is less than 50% it's time to get another beer."

I've read that the actual conclusion should be that the glass was incorrectly engineered for its contents!

[bshirt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '
')Matt Savinar's 'LATOC' thesis, for example, is basically a deconstruction of modern (Anglo-American) society, so is James Kunsler's various writings.

[RacerJace]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '"')when the glass is greater than 50% it's half full and when the glass is less than 50% it's time to get another beer."

I've read that the actual conclusion should be that the glass was incorrectly engineered for its contents!

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bshirt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '
')Matt Savinar's 'LATOC' thesis, for example, is basically a deconstruction of modern (Anglo-American) society, so is James Kunsler's various writings.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'M')y worldview is increasingly negative because facts and events seem to increasingly validate that attitude. I could be wrong, but that is my perception.

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bshirt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '
')Matt Savinar's 'LATOC' thesis, for example, is basically a deconstruction of modern (Anglo-American) society, so is James Kunsler's various writings.

[TorrKing]

I would say that, whereas I definitely crave for doom, it is because I see upon it as an opportunity since I've never liked this society. Of course I may die, but I have to work hard to make sure I am one of the ones that survive.

Because of that I do not post posts like: We are so fucked!, We are all gonna die! (I might have tongue in cheek) and similar.

There are always opportunity, defiatism will get you nowhere. You might die prematurely (as it's called these days), it's all about improving the odds of you and your decendants. Of course a lot of people here seems to join the "sheeple" in being in love with the dulling gadgets and comforts of our present lifestyle. I think you need to release yourself from that path of thought.

So I guess I agree with Ludi.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'M')y worldview is increasingly negative because facts and events seem to increasingly validate that attitude. I could be wrong, but that is my perception.

[bshirt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bshirt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JPL', '
')Matt Savinar's 'LATOC' thesis, for example, is basically a deconstruction of modern (Anglo-American) society, so is James Kunsler's various writings.