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Ten Dollar Words

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 01:51:20

Some words are meant only to be used in print because to use them in normal speech makes one sound ridiculously and falsely intellectual.

Such a word is "sycophant". And I've known what that word means for a very long time. But I do remember wondering about it when I first encountered it as a kid. What the hell's that? The elephant at the Bates Motel?

Anyway, it's one of those words that intellectuals often use to sniff at lesser beings than themselves and it means "mean, servile flatterer".

For me these days, however, it's not good enough to merely know the meaning of a word; I have to know where it came from. And it's amusing to discover that the words that fancy-pants intellectuals often use have their origins in the common and vulgar language of ancient streets.

Sycophant

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Online Etymology', '1')537 (in L. form sycophanta), originally "One who shows the fig," from sykon "fig" + phanein "to show." "Showing the fig" was a vulgar gesture made by sticking the thumb between two fingers, a display which vaguely resembles a fig, itself symbolic of a cunt (sykon also meant "vulva"). The story goes that prominent politicians in ancient Greece held aloof from such inflammatory gestures, but privately urged their followers to taunt their opponents. The sense of "mean, servile flatterer" is first recorded in Eng. 1575.


So, I guess it was like flicking the bird except that it meant, "Ya pussy!"

Since I look up words all the time and discover that they have interesting origins, I thought I'd start a thread of them.
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Re: Ten Dollar Words

Unread postby roccman » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 01:53:46

Every time I use the word fuck (and it is not the weekend) my son pops me $10.

This is why I am always broke.

On the weekend I get a free pass to use the word fuck, fucker, fuckward, dick fuck, mother fucker , and mo fo...
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Re: Ten Dollar Words

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 01:56:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'E')very time I use the word fuck (and it is not the weekend) my son pops me $10.

This is why I am always broke.

On the weekend I get a free pass to use the word fuck, fucker, fuckward, dick fuck, mother fucker , and mo fo...


Oh well, that's a thread-stopping piece of trash post.

I'm sorry I mentioned it.
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Re: Ten Dollar Words

Unread postby lateralus » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 02:03:48

My father used to write down a new word everyday and he actually had a tape of words and meanings that he listened to all the time. One word that stuck with me all these years since then is:

Troglodyte

(A member of a primitive race or tribe of cave-dwellers, a caveman)

That word, for some obscure reason, always sends my mind back to my father and his study of the English language.

Nice thread idea by the way. Cheers.
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Re: Ten Dollar Words

Unread postby jboogy » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 02:11:29

loathe or loath ?it's too hard to understand , and hate means the same and sounds better. When my daughter says she loathes me she has to say it slow and carefully enunciate every letter , kinda takes the bite out of it and we just laugh.
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Re: Ten Dollar Words

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 02:41:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Online Etymology', 'T')roglodyte
"cave-dweller," 1555, from L. troglodytae (plural), from Gk. troglodytes "cave-dweller," lit. "one who creeps into holes," from trogle "hole" (from trogein "to gnaw;" see trout) + dyein "go in, dive in." Slang shortening trog "obnoxious person, boor" is recorded from 1956.


What your father could have used its a hand-signal that meant "Dive in and gnaw a hole".

The other day, I searched around to find out who was singing that kind of jazzy song in the HSBC Direct Commercial. It was Canadian singer, "Feist". It's her real last name. But it's a good show biz name too, especially for a girl. Over the years, I've noted that girls like that word "feisty" to describe themselves or their pets or lively children.

But where does the word "feisty" come from?


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Online Etymology', 'f')eisty
1896, Amer.Eng. from feist "small dog," from fice, fist Amer.Eng. 1805 "small dog," short for fysting curre "stinking cur," attested from 1529, from M.E. fysten, fisten "break wind" (1440), related to O.E. fisting "stink." The 1811 slang dictionary defines fice as "a small windy escape backwards, more obvious to the nose than ears; frequently by old ladies charged on their lap-dogs." Cf. also Dan. fise "to blow, to fart," and obs. Eng. askefise, lit. "fire-blower, ash-blower," from an unrecorded O.N. source, used in M.E. for a kind of bellows, but orig. "a term of reproach among northern nations for an unwarlike fellow who stayed at home in the chimney corner" [O.E.D.]



Now that I have totally spoiled one of womanhood's favorites, you see what I mean? These dang words are interesting!
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Re: Ten Dollar Words

Unread postby jboogy » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 02:52:55

some words that are never used except in old literature; harlot ,strumpet , balderdash , haberdashery , trollop
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Re: Ten Dollar Words

Unread postby Aaron » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 10:31:47

nig·gard·ly /ˈnɪgərdli/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nig-erd-lee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective 1. reluctant to give or spend; stingy; miserly.
2. meanly or ungenerously small or scanty: a niggardly tip to a waiter.
–adverb 3. in the manner of a niggard.

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Re: Ten Dollar Words

Unread postby Carlhole » Tue 18 Sep 2007, 12:03:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Orange (Eng.); Orange (Fr.); Naranja (Sp.); Arancia (It.)

Interestingly, none of these terms come from the Latin word for orange, citrus aurentium; instead, they all come from the ancient Sanskrit "naga ranga", which literally means "fatal indigestion for elephants."

In certain traditions the orange, not the apple, is the fruit responsible for original sin. There was an ancient Malay fable--which made its way into the Sanskrit tongue around the Seventh or Eighth Centuries B.C.--that links the orange to the sin of gluttony and has an elephant as the culprit.

Apparently, one day an elephant was passing through the forest, when he found a tree unknown to him in a clearing, bowed downward by its weight of beautiful, tempting oranges; as a result, the elephant ate so many that he burst. Many years later a man stumbled upon the scene and noticed the fossilized remains of the elephant with many orange trees growing from what had been its stomach. The man then exclaimed, "Amazing! What a naga ranga (fatal indigestion for elephants)!"


According to Online Etymology, the word was originally "naranga" from Sanskrit. It was then turned into "narange" in English but turned into "orange" as a result of confusion with the indefinite article "an" - "an narange" became "an orange".

Mmmm....gluttony.
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