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What will be the pinnacle of human scientific achievement?

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 10 Sep 2007, 02:18:00

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/sep/06/2]· New progress towards synthetic organism
· Hope of fuels, drugs and ways to fight pollution
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Guardian', 'T')o the untrained eye, the tiny, misshapen, fatty blobs on Giovanni Murtas's microscope slide would not look very impressive. But when the Italian scientist saw their telltale green fluorescent glint he knew he had achieved something remarkable - and taken a vital step towards building a living organism from scratch.

The green glow was proof that his fragile creations were capable of making their own proteins, a crucial ability of all living things and vital for carrying out all other aspects of life.

Though only a first step, the discovery will hasten efforts by scientists to build the world's first synthetic organism. It could also prove a significant development in the multibillion-dollar battle to exploit the technology for manufacturing commercially valuable chemicals such as drugs and biofuels or cleaning up pollution...


Ok all you neo-Luddite Doomers out there.

What do you think will be Mankind's most advanced achievement in Science and Technology before we again find ourselves scraping the hides of dead animals with a fractured CD at the bottom of Olduvai Gorge?

Personally, I don't think the advancement in knowledge and applications will ever stop. I think mankind's most advanced achievement will probably be a focused form of intelligence hundreds of thousands or even millions of times more powerful than a standard human brain. And mankind will do this not with logic chips and digital instruction sets but with artificial neurons and neural networks.

I say that this will be mankind's highest achievement because advances afterwards will be the accomplishments of something else - not us.
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Re: Scientists a step nearer to creating artificial life

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 10 Sep 2007, 04:54:37

You didn't answer the question.
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Re: Scientists a step nearer to creating artificial life

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 10 Sep 2007, 05:08:24

Thank you, FG.

Would anyone else care to venture an opinion?

The question is: What do you think will be Mankind's most advanced achievement in Science and Technology before we again find ourselves scraping the hides of dead animals with a fractured CD at the bottom of the Olduvai Gorge?
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Re: Scientists a step nearer to creating artificial life

Unread postby fluffy » Mon 10 Sep 2007, 06:31:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'A')s an advanced microbe specialist...


You mean you clean toilets?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'T')his cannot happen randomly and never has and it will not be done by any person.


Strange, this kind of potentiated semiperiable membrane does arise in some natural setttings without any interventon.. as does chiral sorting.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', 'R')eason?
Man cannot create life because they do not have life to give. Our own cells can create life because they are already endowed with this capability.


So you are a vitalist and creationist nutjob along with everything else..
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Re: Scientists a step nearer to creating artificial life

Unread postby Ayame » Mon 10 Sep 2007, 06:52:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')Would anyone else care to venture an opinion?


Yeah, that big tunnel they are building so they can smash the neutrons etc. against each other at super high speeds. If it gets finished before peak oil of course.
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Re: Scientists a step nearer to creating artificial life

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Mon 10 Sep 2007, 08:58:50

If Peak Oil doesn't end modern society, a scientist will somehow...

"Hmm, let's see what this does!"

*earth implodes*

Errm, oops, sorry about the mess... So long and thanks for the fish. :lol:

If we ever succeed in creating AI it will destroy us as the most logical conclusion.

Either that or bureaucracy. Red tape kills, folks.
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Re: Scientists a step nearer to creating artificial life

Unread postby strider3700 » Mon 10 Sep 2007, 20:07:16

Even if it works it's decades away from being useful.

The doomer in me says we don't have decades.

The doomer in me says a couple of years will be a luxury.
shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
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Re: Scientists a step nearer to creating artificial life

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 10 Sep 2007, 20:20:34

No one answers the damn question!

What do you think will be Mankind's most advanced achievement in Science and Technology before we again find ourselves scraping the hides of dead animals with a fractured CD at the bottom of Olduvai Gorge?
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Re: Scientists a step nearer to creating artificial life

Unread postby jboogy » Mon 10 Sep 2007, 20:59:02

Hyper-alloy combat chassis surrounded by living tissue ---in other words /TERMINATORS!!!!!!!!! , seriously I believe travel at the speed of light would eventually be achieved but it would take another 1000 years , years that we will not have . Once that pinnacle was achieved the only thing beyond would be time travel, impossibility for humans , IMHO. I realize some say time stops at the speed of light but that's not the time travel I'm talking about.
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