[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Offshore', 'A')bortion is murder. That's why the Democrats love it so much.

Human life or any life for that matter just isn't sacred to them. They are the party of human sacrifice.

[SinisterBlueCat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Offshore', 'A')bortion is murder. That's why the Democrats love it so much.

Human life or any life for that matter just isn't sacred to them. They are the party of human sacrifice.

[Offshore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '1')8, when the proles are ripe for becoming cannon fodder.
Not coincidentally, this is also why they consider issues like proper education, health and well-being and environmental factors extraneous in their minds...no use investing in a young life when its ultimate destiny is a bodybag.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Offshore', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '1')8, when the proles are ripe for becoming cannon fodder.
Not coincidentally, this is also why they consider issues like proper education, health and well-being and environmental factors extraneous in their minds...no use investing in a young life when its ultimate destiny is a bodybag.

[Plantagenet]

The US is a multi-cultural society, not a white society.

Bush's statement is probably a suggestion that it is better to fight Al Qaeda "over there", rather then wait for them to attack the U.S. again, although with Bush's fractured syntax its often hard to tell just what he means.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he US is a multi-cultural society, not a white society.

Bush's statement is probably a suggestion that it is better to fight Al Qaeda "over there", rather then wait for them to attack the U.S. again, although with Bush's fractured syntax its often hard to tell just what he means.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he US is a multi-cultural society, not a white society.

Bush's statement is probably a suggestion that it is better to fight Al Qaeda "over there", rather then wait for them to attack the U.S. again, although with Bush's fractured syntax its often hard to tell just what he means.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he US is a multi-cultural society, not a white society.

Bush's statement is probably a suggestion that it is better to fight Al Qaeda "over there", rather then wait for them to attack the U.S. again, although with Bush's fractured syntax its often hard to tell just what he means.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'I') ask again; how is this not a value judgment about Iraqis versus Americans? Yes, I understand that he is first an American, and as President, bound to value the lives of his own countrymen over others. OilIsOffshore, though, doesn't get that this judgment has ultimately cost tens of thousands of Iraqi lives which, let's face it, are eminently expendable versus that of a few hundred Americans. This much we know.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'I') ask again; how is this not a value judgment about Iraqis versus Americans? Yes, I understand that he is first an American, and as President, bound to value the lives of his own countrymen over others. OilIsOffshore, though, doesn't get that this judgment has ultimately cost tens of thousands of Iraqi lives which, let's face it, are eminently expendable versus that of a few hundred Americans. This much we know.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '
')Let me make this clear, using your own words, and adding my own:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'I')MHO, Bush's main goal is to forstall terror attacks by Al Qaida on the US homeland, by diverting their efforts towards the Iraqi homeland.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')Al Qaida can't afford to see Iraq become a democracy. They want it back. The resulting bloodbath has been horrible.

[Plantagenet]

After Saddam fell, the Kurds joined the US and the Shia to dominate the Sunni. The Sunni boycotted the elections.

Now the US is cozying up to the Arab Sunni Sheikhs in Anbar.

The Arab Saudis, our friends loyal and true (cough cough!) would much rather see the Arab Sunnis in Iraq in the driver's seat in Iraq then the Shia, who lean toward Iran.

If the Kurds and Sunni join in an alliance (with a nudge from the US), they've got 40% of the population. All they need is some help from some secular Shia, and they can win the next election and control the next government.

And then its good-bye to the foul PM Mr. Maliki, Iranian bootlicker that he has proven to be.

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'B')ut, "they want it back?" When did Al Qaeda ever run things in Iraq?

[NEOPO]

Total Bullshit!

Al Qaeda Tapes: Direct Link To Military Psyops And Donald Rumsfeld

Surprise Surprise, It's Another Al Qaeda Blockbuster Release

U.S. Government Caught Red-Handed Releasing Staged Al-Qaeda Videos

Like the first link said "Following the trail for five minutes leads to Pentagon"...

Anyone who proposes that this group is anything but a pentagon mule is either willfully ignorant or an agent.
Now either stand down or tomorrow you will see a slew of new threads by my comrades about the true origins of all this shit.
Is that what you want? think about it as this crap goes both ways.

Man on man I am starting to wonder if that is what you and they want.

EB - are you not educated as to the reality of all of this or is this some form of denial and rationalization?


If these people honestly believe they are fighting the western infidels can you not see how that can easily be a total manipulation?

The people at the top of both structures can easily play the laymen and get them to do pretty much whatever they desire.
Add to this the fact that many of these "terr'ist" have lost what little they had, country, home and usually friends and family etc etc...

I am fucking astonished by the level of ignorance displayed here.
Not so much by agents of the state which PA and Offshore certainly seem to be yet by those who consider themselves knowledgeable about PO and all of its ramifications.

Oil, smoke and mirrors

The next time any of you turn your head sideways like a dog trying to understand its master concerning anything we have posted just think back to this thread.

This is willful ignorance or something far worse.
Think about it, understand that many of us can see the truth and we simply will not accept this.

If you had any credibility at all it was hacked into tiny pieces by this easily put together 10 minute rant. One would wonder why you persist. One may wonder why you are allowed to persist.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', 'B')ut, "they want it back?" When did Al Qaeda ever run things in Iraq?

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '
')EB - are you not educated as to the reality of all of this or is this some form of denial and rationalization?

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'T')he US is a multi-cultural society, not a white society.

Bush's statement is probably a suggestion that it is better to fight Al Qaeda "over there", rather then wait for them to attack the U.S. again, although with Bush's fractured syntax its often hard to tell just what he means.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '
')Forestall terror attacks in the US = AGREED?

[NEOPO]

Well EB I really do not see how I "jumped" to anything yet if I did simply get you wrong then all apologies for reading and then re reading the entire thread and then somehow still misjudging your position.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')MHO, Bush's main goal is to forstall terror attacks by Al Qaida on the US homeland, by diverting their efforts towards the Iraqi homeland.