[Bas]

This seems to be the order of priorities in America and in western Europe; what's wrong with this? are we too rich? are we taking the more fundamental liberties as granted?

Comments please.

[Offshore]

The priorities in Europe I would say are that way.

The priorities in America on the other hand are vastly different and go in the following order if you're a Republican and not a traitor: Liberty, life, possessions.

[jasonraymondson]

Mine are Sex, money, rock and roll

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Offshore', 'T')he priorities in Europe I would say are that way.

The priorities in America on the other hand are vastly different and go in the following order if you're a Republican and not a traitor: Liberty, life, possessions.

[jboogy]

Offshore/Oilymaster- please ,please , please,if you want to participate could you at least offer more than knee-jerk republican regurgitation. Haven't you learned by now that what you consider provocative and daring we find BORING . You have none of Rushes verbal dexterity or the complexity of Hannities lying and obfusication. You're like a small child that mistakingly thinks he can play with the grownups .I pity you , how do you not see that we suffer fools easily? To the contrary of what you most likely believe , I doubt few here find you scandalous or shocking , in fact I doubt few here spend a thought on what you write at all . It must be painful to realize that in spite of your best efforts you are barely able to muster the slightest anger or condemnation in response to your best bile.You're insignificant and practically invisible , is that really what you wanted when you came here?
Bas - I think everyone values life above all else , I wouldn't be surprised to find many americans and western europeans who would happily surrender some liberties in order to maintain a sumptuous lifestyle , we're soaking in it right now Madge. Just don't ask them to publicly say they'll surrender liberty for luxury.We will subjugate ourselves happily but damn it we will not acknowledge it in front of others. We must at least maintain the illusion of pride.

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Offshore', 'i')f you're a Republican and not a traitor

[burtonridr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'O')ffshore/Oilymaster- please ,please , please,if you want to participate could you at least offer more than knee-jerk republican regurgitation. Haven't you learned by now that what you consider provocative and daring we find BORING . You have none of Rushes verbal dexterity or the complexity of Hannities lying and obfusication. You're like a small child that mistakingly thinks he can play with the grownups .I pity you , how do you not see that we suffer fools easily? To the contrary of what you most likely believe , I doubt few here find you scandalous or shocking , in fact I doubt few here spend a thought on what you write at all . It must be painful to realize that in spite of your best efforts you are barely able to muster the slightest anger or condemnation in response to your best bile.You're insignificant and practically invisible , is that really what you wanted when you came here?
Bas - I think everyone values life above all else , I wouldn't be surprised to find many americans and western europeans who would happily surrender some liberties in order to maintain a sumptuous lifestyle , we're soaking in it right now Madge. Just don't ask them to publicly say they'll surrender liberty for luxury.We will subjugate ourselves happily but damn it we will not acknowledge it in front of others. We must at least maintain the illusion of pride.

[jboogy]

Very presumptuous of you to assume I like "ripping" on the new guys Burprider , on the contrary I luv having new people and their ideas. However , I could not under the most favorable conditions call offshores predictable pointless attacks on democrats and liberals " fresh ideas "about to "blossom", I mean seriousely dude, have you read ANYTHING he's written ? And as soon as I see him write something constructive about keeping our world habitable I'll be sure to suppress my shock long enough to address it . No Burtridder , I let 95% of the attacks on liberals (attacks on me) go by unremarked upon and I'm getting tired of turning the other cheek. Besides I suspect offshore is just an alias for oilismastery , a particularly reprehensible neocon that specialised in short , poisonous ad-hominem attacks.Now , since you have thrown down the gauntlet I will pick it up and ask you to please produce evidence that I've "ripped" on someone that didn't provoke the attack . You call me a bully ? Bullies pick on weak people that can't defend themselves , it seems to me offshore is the one going around picking fights. You don't agree with his post either? I think you do agree and therein lies the real reason for your beef with me. As far as " have on pounded in the ass" , I don't know what this means and I'm not sure I want to know of your secret desires in regards to offshore/oily's ass. I SAID GOOD DAY SIR !

[Alcassin]

Bas:

In Europe we just don't like poverty (through social inclusive programs), inequalities (we abolished slavery, revolt against rulers and so on), our freedom has emancipative character. We fought to get it from oppresive governments, and government can be changed here - sometimes method is more bloody.

American freedom is a liberty - it's right you get when you are born. Their governemnt seen as "small" <lol> wasn't that one to fight with. It's a bit different mentality partly shared by Britons.

There is a great irony about American founders - bunch of slaveowners who wanted to be free.

[jboogy]

I think your suspicions about Hillary could be dead right , I can't pinpoint exactly why but she scares me almost as much as the neocons . It's like she's been ordained the next prez. by people I don't know the names of. She seems corporate and militaristic to the core and all the more dangerous because she's been camouflaged so well up till now.

[jboogy]

This ominous portent combined with the "put" options discussed on another thread tells me I might want to lace up my boots pretty tight in another week or so. Dow dropped 167 yesterday , in spite of all the fed manipulation things are not looking good. Perhaps when looking at the total picture the PTB might decide to set the final game in motion?

[Venerye]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ferrelgiraffe', ' ')Spiders keep other insects alive while their grub grows inside of them, until the time is right, they explode out of the insect and finish it off.

[jboogy]

Your thinking of some wasps I believe.

[burtonridr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'B')esides I suspect offshore is just an alias for oilismastery , a particularly reprehensible neocon that specialised in short , poisonous ad-hominem attacks.

[jboogy]

That's it burp-rider ?You disappoint me.