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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 05:26:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'N')ot me of course, I'm the model of probity.

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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby NEOPO » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 12:30:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', ' ')didn't he get ignored in that physics forum for trying to say that the swastica was holy?


Swastika
So many good comments here yet I cannot help but first defend my friend's understanding of this most "holy" symbol. It is possible that it was the first symbol. Damn PMS, I thought you did your homework...

Yes, do not argue with the Mod's as their authority is final and will not withstand any true and OPEN scrutiny as is stated in the COC, as is stated in the COC, as is stated in the COC, as is stated in the COC...

Like so many who have came before "we cannot be wrong" and that is final!

I know I have been wrong and will be wrong in the future yet nah, not this bunch as they intend only to give us a space to discuss the most important issue to face mankind since, uhm since uhm well I suppose this issue is unprecedented.

Such a shame to lock all the 911 issues into one thread as if that particular false flag operation was not the catalyst for launching the resource war which has kept things semi normal for our unsustainable selves since yet yes please allow such drivel to exist as how much poop is trapped in people etc etc ad infintum nauseum.

Ever wonder why PMS and myself would rather entertain ourselves with personal battles rather then engage more often in the true discourse? Well wonder no further please.

Such a shame to allow the Praetorian Guard to use character assassination, blatant ad hom and other under handed tactics to degrade, isolate and maginalize those that they disagree with.

Lame was far from the right word as it was pure bias and bigotry that led to this. Much like the Honorable Mr. Savinar's request that no one speak of the Zionist connection or anything related...

Denial is strong and fear is the force behind it.
R.I.P the brave who fought and died so we could speak thus here and now.

Let us hope that this new Ceasar will not underestimate the power of the gaurd and not allow them to beguile him like Severus or worse such as the fate of Balbinus, Pupienus and Probus etc etc the list is long.
Let us also hope that Ceasar himself will not pretend to have the power of the god's and attempt to reign over us with the wrath of the same.

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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 13:12:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercurygirl', 'H')ow strange...

I too have noticed more butterflies this year than the norm, enough so that I've remarked on it more than once. Those of us noticing are not necessarily in the same region, so it can't be weather patterns, can it?

Interesting thoughts and resources. Thanks.

PS Raphael was sometimes really reaching for connections, but at least he wasn't boring. Miss the dude.


I've been commenting for months on the butterflies doubling this year. I've seen species I've never even seen before, too. It's great!
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 13:18:33

I have what I think is a great idea. Why don't we start threads like this in a clearly whack job separate forum called, "The Rubber Room".

I would be happy to post on that forum, as I feel people who are psychotic or eccentric are often on the leading edge. For every 100 loony claims they make, one will stand out as a maverick statement that is actually a valuable paradigm buster.

Raphael should be reinstated if he wants to come back. He should tone down the Zionist stuff, though. It comes across, to people who don't know better as racist. I understand him and Neopo, but many don't or just can't.
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby NEOPO » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 14:29:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I') have what I think is a great idea. Why don't we start threads like this in a clearly whack job separate forum called, "The Rubber Room".

I would be happy to post on that forum, as I feel people who are psychotic or eccentric are often on the leading edge. For every 100 loony claims they make, one will stand out as a maverick statement that is actually a valuable paradigm buster.

Raphael should be reinstated if he wants to come back. He should tone down the Zionist stuff, though. It comes across, to people who don't know better as racist. I understand him and Neopo, but many don't or just can't.


I do not think we should tone down what we perceive as the truth simply because the sheeple are un or under educated.
That is one of those slippery slopes isnt it? :cry:

Ultimately you know the "they" are not going to come along and that we are not going to avoid TSHTF no matter what we say or do.

It is quite convenient for TPTB that if one cries out against them that person is unpatriotic or if someone shouts "zionism!" they are seen as an anti semite.

Reminds me of this song - Passive

Screw being isolated further!
I brung PO to all those I knew!
I am doing something!
I am powering down!
I am striving toward sustainability!
I care!
Yeah, lock me up in a rubber room because I must be crazy!

Simply because we do not follow the supposed guidelines for how-to deliver the message means nothing as I do not see much changing going through the "proper" channels using the "proper" methods etc etc...

The "they" believe poltics will work yet you and I know better do we not?

Hell, TB, life is the rubber room...
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p.s. I saw many butterflies this year yet I am psyccentric 8)
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 14:58:31

The only people worth hanging out with lie just shy of being committed, Neopo. As far as the Zionist stuff goes, it's valuable information, but can easily be distorted for other agendas, but I respect where YOU are coming from with it. Rock on. :lol:
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby mercurygirl » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 17:53:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his post of his Mercury Girl has some really ‘thought provoking’, to quote TW, connections. Some of the post was difficult to follow …but the videos he supplied are GREAT. I mean GREAT also in that he discusses the GREAT YEAR. Something I have been following a little in the past. link He could certainly use an editor

Yes, thought-provoking at least is one thing that can be said of Raph's "exuberant writing" as blukatzen gently noted.

Sometimes I drop in some hasty notes and did not mean to imply that I think Raphael a crackpot. On the contrary, I've frequently been provoked to thought by his ideas. In particular, I enjoyed his thoughts on chirality, about which I was unaware. It's good to see he's still at it.

I'm familiar with the Great Year. I've been interested in astrology, symbology, linguistics, and metaphysics for much of my life. Very interesting how he found that Solomon's Knot in the Greek Zodiac Cross, I think! Thanks for the links, I'll have to read some more.
Neo, you and Raph and others struggle against the degradation of our connections to all life and its source...sometimes symbols are all we have to hold on to, eh? I understand the fight to understand and preserve them. I truly appreciate the ongoing discussions here.
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 22 Aug 2007, 18:24:00

But MercuryGirl, Raph IS a crackpot. That's why we need him on the forum. We need to embrace nuts, not reject them. My favorite story about a crackpot with insight, is from a psychologist who worked in an emergency ward and recorded the esoterica and blithering rantings of someone who checked in to the hospital in a "highly agitated" state. Years later he noted that the physicist who recieved the Nobel Prize that year, won for precisely the same ideas the "nut" was spouting in the emergency room, decades before. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby NEOPO » Thu 23 Aug 2007, 00:09:28

I feel like leaving unless Raph is allowed back...

Asshole idiots at the highest levels yet they boot Raph. Pathetic yet most of it is...
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby greenworm » Sat 25 Aug 2007, 21:27:31

Though I don't have any quantitative statistics to back up my claim, there are an unusual amount of butterflies hanging out at the echinacea, however, I thought it was due to the abundance of echinacea. I've seen the craziest infestations, one summer back in the late 70's/early 80's the dragonfly population was astonishing, you literally could just stick a large fishing net in the sky and pull down 7 or 8 of them, then the gypsy caterpillar, yuck, that was ridiculous. That was in the 80's, when you walked outside you dare not open your mouth, ugghh, hairy little sons of b------. The dragonflies was a truly natural phenomenon, gypsy caterpillars was a silly human mistake if I remember right, butterflies, I am not convinced that the amount is unusually large yet.
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby greenworm » Sat 25 Aug 2007, 21:31:09

Now that is a butterfly effect: butterfly (large)
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby NEOPO » Sat 25 Aug 2007, 22:31:40

Nazi butterflies! run! 8)

Those chase manhattan bank commericals use the butterfly, the swastika and the stones song "free".

The nazi's are at it again!
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 26 Aug 2007, 09:34:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'N')azi butterflies! run! Those chase manhattan bank commericals use the butterfly, the swastika and the stones song "free".The nazi's are at it again!

NEO after reading Raph's posts, I see now where he is. He realizes the swastika can be seen as an offensive symbol to many people in the west...So apparently I have seen a 'shift' in his writings. He now prefers to call it by an even more profound name.
The KEY to Universal Movement It is still know as that in the east ... and it was being called that by a late 19th century explorer called James Churchward.
Who had linked / found the swastika in the Valley of Mexico.

Then the NAZIs maligned the symbol. The KEY to Universal Movement is a more appropriate name when you consider that both the smallest particles like neutrinos and some of the largest, like neutron stars rotate. Both are invisible forces with rotation.

Neutron star is a sun. The swastika is a solar symbol. There is also esoteric internet chatter about a Black Sun. Or maybe the Black Sun is a Brown/Black dwarf? Or a Black Hole?

Hmmm a "black hole sun"? perhaps it is as you suggest, chiral, one is the becoming and the other the undoing?

After being initiated into theosophy for better or worse I came to believe that the symbol meant simply "Swirling cosmos" and this is no great revelation to a modern person yet considering that the symbol is perhaps the first then it is indeed amazing that the ancients were aware of it, aware of the action of swirling cosmos and/or as you point out "swirling everything" such as atomic particulates.

How could the ancient's have been aware of this? Hurricanes and other storms some say yet they did not have satelites and other "above" viewing techniques (or did they?) so how could they have known about the spinning? link

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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 26 Aug 2007, 10:16:30

Well that is an interesting bit of etymology Do you believe the following: The word "God" derives from the ancient Jewish word Jad-Havah which means "male and female" and since the builders of these religions were male chauvinist then of course "God" was male.

Jad-God. Just one of many reasons that I believe Theosophy and yes H.P. Blavatsky was not part of the club but later her works and the society was infiltrated and brung into the fold as is all things. Have you ever heard someone bemoan "I cannot have anything" ...
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby Aaron » Mon 27 Aug 2007, 11:21:42

Just a little note to remind you folks.

We don't allow Staff bashing.

Ponder the wisdom of such a policy & decide where you stand.

I won't hesitate to enforce this policy.

Good Luck,

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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby Aaron » Mon 27 Aug 2007, 12:36:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')...but Aaron did you enjoy the above post? Did you get the Yin and Yang of it?

Yeah I do... I also get a real "ban evasion" vibe from you Raph.... errr... G. Regardless... don't bash staffers here or I gotta ban ya... again.
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby jboogy » Sat 01 Sep 2007, 14:43:41

My brain hurts.
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby Bas » Sat 01 Sep 2007, 14:54:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'M')y brain hurts.


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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby Bas » Sat 01 Sep 2007, 15:32:52

I'm not a big fan of symbols of any kind, as history has proven time and again that the political elite misuse them to accomplish their own political goals (the Third Reigh being the most infamous example). Usually symbols come into existence to put certain powerful ideas (sometimes for a certain time or place) but soon enough the symbols become more important than the ideas behind them and become tools of fundamentalism.

So thanks, Golem, Neopo, but no thanks.
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Re: Butterfly Effect

Unread postby jboogy » Sat 01 Sep 2007, 15:39:46

Oh dear sweet jjesus hep mee , the blood, the bloood won stopp squertig out my noze make it stopp pleees mak it sooppp
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