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Re: Workers losing jobs, but companies complain they cannot

Unread postby vision-master » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 12:42:46

Free education?

Student loans?

Girl Friend with good job?
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Re: Workers losing jobs, but companies complain they cannot

Unread postby MaterialExcess » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 20:42:03

I work in IT (ERP systems). If you are willing to consider relocating, I would say finding a very well paying job is easy. Usually you will have multiple offers to choose from.
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Re: Workers losing jobs, but companies complain they cannot

Unread postby Twilight » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 21:59:25

It's true, there is a shortage of highly skilled workers at all levels. I'm talking literacy and numeracy too, and business acumen, not just the degree or x years of experience using some machines. I'm talking the whole package. The education system ceased to produce well-rounded individuals years ago, so industry training (also inadequate these days) is working with lower quality people.

Also, the first waves of redundancies are always among the expendable. The reason they can't find jobs is because they and their skills and experience are surplus to requirements. There are times when no-one needs clerks and no-one is doing any data entry. That means if you fall into that category, those are lean years. It pays to be flexible. If you are not, tough, you are not needed. Except maybe as a consumer on credit.

That's life. Labour markets have always had some boom and bust, even when agriculture dominated the scene. Some of it is inescapable. The rest, I blame on failing education systems cranking out "arts" graduates who can't count and can't spell.
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Re: Workers losing jobs, but companies complain they cannot

Unread postby Baldwin » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 23:22:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Twilight', 'I')t's true, there is a shortage of highly skilled workers at all levels. I'm talking literacy and numeracy too, and business acumen, not just the degree or x years of experience using some machines. I'm talking the whole package. The education system ceased to produce well-rounded individuals years ago, so industry training (also inadequate these days) is working with lower quality people.


The education system is now designed to churn out mediocre business and finance majors. As these graduates are taught by individuals who tend to be cloistered in an ivory tower (or worse a TA with no experience whatsoever who is still in training himself). Contemplate and reflect for a moment. If the aforementioned individual (we'll assume professor) has accomplished a Ph.d and other accolades, why isn't he heading a fortune 500 company? Why do such numbers as the price of gasoline or the USD index elude his genius? HE'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. WORSE YET, HE'S TRAINING THE NEXT GENERATION.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') would reckon that many qualified, competent, intelligent, hard-working people have had run-ins with the War on Drugs.


You'd have to get convicted. In my own high school (elitist, white, alumni include Bill O'Reilley and Colin Finnerty, the innocent although nonetheless accused Duke rapist), drug and alcohol use in rampant. Guess how many people get arrested for marijuana possession or for dealing? (Some other drugs are exchanged, but marijuana is the most popular.) NONE! Here's the two reasons:

1) The school keeps it hush-hush. Such matters are dealt with internally and students are quietly expelled. A certain tacit quality prevails and the student's disappearance garners no attention.

2.) As the son of a NYPD detective, I know some of their tricks. The relevant trick follows as thus: Narcotics officers and officers in general do not look for drugs in middle-class (or yet better moneyed) white neighborhoods. They're in run-down black and hispanic neighborhoods. The only thing cops keep a vigil for in white residences might be some alcohol.

Drugs may present a problem, but I doubt it exists on the scale you set forth.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's pretty hard to have a past nowadays. Damn near impossible if you want to work for any kind of large organization.


Yep. Also, don't write memos. Those usually find their way to a DA's office, to the detriment of a politician or CEO.
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Re: Workers losing jobs, but companies complain they cannot

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Mon 20 Aug 2007, 03:17:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'S')imple,


Economies change, when economies change the requirements of workers change.

During the industrial revolution you had a massive downsizing of people in the area of craftsman and weavers that made products using the old traditional, non-mechanized methods.

Meanwhile you had a surge in the number of jobs related to using machinery to make clothing and trade goods.

That's what it probably is.

Amazing how the free market works. If only we could get Hitlery Sodom Arafat or Barack Hussein Osama elected then we can destroy it all and destroy the corporations and wealth in this country. Then we can be just like that utopian police state North Korea.


just like that utopian NeoCon police state North Virginia
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