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Greetings From Idiot America

Unread postby killJOY » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 11:08:18

This is tangentially related to peak oil in that it's about the tendency of Americans to BELIEVE what they want when it comes to important scientific questions.

Greetings From Idiot America.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Gut is the basis for the Great Premises of Idiot America. We hold these truths to be self-evident:
1) Any theory is valid if it sells books, soaks up ratings, or otherwise moves units.
2) Anything can be true if somebody says it on television.
3) Fact is that which enough people believe. Truth is determined by how fervently they believe it.


Anyone who takes peak oil seriously has probably asked him- or herself, "Am I on the irrational side? Am I simply 'believing' in peak oil, or is it the others, those who ignore/dismiss peak oil, who are irrational?'"

I've always placed myself firmly on the side of the skeptics, like author of the above article Charles Pierce, on the side of Dawkins, Shermer, Sam Harris, etc., and hold peak oil in the same esteem as evolution.

So why are these folks so silent on peak oil?

Is it not a simple scientific fact that you can't have infinite growth against a finite resource?

To believe is to grow.
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Re: Greetings From Idiot America

Unread postby Jack » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 15:06:20

Back in 2006, Bill Nye (PBS, Science Guy) gave a talk in Waco. Read the results.

LINK

(Yes, the original link is expired. Yes, it's April, 2006. Yes, I can't prove it happened).

What the heck. With Waco, it probably DID happen! 8)

Idiot America, truly. Next thing you know, they'll spout nonsense about abiotic oil.
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Re: Greetings From Idiot America

Unread postby RonMN » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 20:41:30

Killjoy, I have a friend whome I've allowed to know my PO ideas/theories...

I just talked with him today...He is convinced "this subprime mess" will all be over with in 6 months...I love this dude but i cant convince him otherwise...

What is a man to do?

I pray for him, his wife, & kids!
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Re: Greetings From Idiot America

Unread postby IntentionallyLeftBlank » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 20:48:29

To quote Homer Simpson: " :-D Facts are meaningless, they can be used to prove anything"
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Re: Greetings From Idiot America

Unread postby FoxV » Sun 19 Aug 2007, 23:45:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'K')illjoy, I have a friend whome I've allowed to know my PO ideas/theories...

I just talked with him today...He is convinced "this subprime mess" will all be over with in 6 months...I love this dude but i cant convince him otherwise...

I have a similar friend, when I showed him the other day about how the sub-prime was blowing apart he said "They'll fix it". My response of "yes, with your money" fell on deaf ears.

Save yourselves people, there is no hope for the rest of humanity
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