[IanC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', 'I')s there anybody who isn't going to die ? Let's have a show of hands, who isn't going to die ?

[Narz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'T')here is a glorious future, full of excitement and challenges!

Can I get an 'amen' to that !?

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mkwin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')Russia is experiencing dieoff in mild form.
It would be great if we can experience similar kind of dieoff in the future.
That can be managed and life will go on.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IanC', '
')We're not all going to die at the same time and in the same way. People on this site are worried about the future for this reason. No one wants to die a solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short existance in the Hobbsian state of nature we seem to be heading for. Nation states will battle to secure scarce resources for their people. It's already happening. Open your eyes.

-IanC
Portland

[Niagara]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mkwin', 'A')n perfect example of the simplistic reductionism nonsense that sets this site far below the quality of The Oil Drum.

If you wondered why Peak Oil.com wasn't involved in the NPC report consultation like The Oil Drum and ASPO etc were, well this is it.

[mkwin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mkwin', '
') No one is starving in Russia. Japan's population will half in the next 50 years and it's nothing to do with Die-off.

The birth rate is below replacement levels in many developed countries and in the majority of European countries.

[HorneyGeekBoi]

My predictions:

A) There will be no chaos, martial law imposed, trouble makers shot, fear will stop lawnessness, the government will become a mob...

B) The powers that be want the population to increase, as a result, living conditions will decrease, slavery may be brought back eventually after rationing... Why? Because countries compete with other countries... We are already competing with china, and the country who can keep producing while decreasing their oil usage will have an advantage over another. Get ready for the USA to be turned into a china, and china trying to turn into the USA...

C) Oil will not disappear, remember that, it will simply become scarce. The infrastructure will still function, rich and wealthy people wwill still be rich and wealthy, and the population will be sustained or increased even if they have to endure third world poverty. After all, they cant complain, there will be a dictatorship.

D) At the end of the day, nations will fight other nations to survive, and the pawns will be the majority of poor people in those countries. Dont assume your government cares about you or your safety. It will want the population to increase, to provide more workers and soldiers. Weaker nations will do without oil, third world nations will do without oil, and medium sized nations or any nation with value metals, oil, gas, or any useful resorce will slowly be imploded because of economic warfare or nuked. Eventually it may get down to nuclear power vs nuclear power, but that is unlikely to result in anything. Nobody has anything to gain from provoking another country to nuke them, and by the time all the little players are gone, there will be enough oil to go around.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'V')ery truy. Clueless, we are all going to die, you're right. Good job. The "rub" is who dies first? Who starves while others eat? Who gets shot and who gets to pull the trigger? Who is forced from their property and who gets to watch it on TV? Who gets to try to emmigrate to a new country and who gets to force them out?

We're not all going to die at the same time and in the same way. People on this site are worried about the future for this reason. No one wants to die a solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short existance in the Hobbsian state of nature we seem to be heading for. Nation states will battle to secure scarce resources for their people. It's already happening. Open your eyes

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'J')ack, I have a question for you.

Are you for real or just enjoying playing a role (sociopath)? Just curious. You can answer via PM if you don't want to ruin your image.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ve made some quite public comments about the recipients of so-called special education, for example. I've carefully avoided advocating doing anything to them (not politically correct, after all), but I have advocated removing them from the mainstream. All for the greater good of society, of course.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', '
')
What is your definition of "the mainstream" ?

I like this - a true Darwinian...

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nyway, this results in learning disabled children being placed in regular classrooms with non-learning disabled students. This particular practice is referred to as "mainstreaming". My contention (then and now) is that the bright and average students are shortchanged as a result of such a policy. Thus, the learning disabled child should not be included in regular classrooms. Furthermore, special education in general is a waste of resources.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '
')Anyway, this results in learning disabled children being placed in regular classrooms with non-learning disabled students. This particular practice is referred to as "mainstreaming". My contention (then and now) is that the bright and average students are shortchanged as a result of such a policy. Thus, the learning disabled child should not be included in regular classrooms. Furthermore, special education in general is a waste of resources.

[Narz]

Thanks for answering my questions Jack.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'S')o, what you're saying is that you should keep a group of friends or allies that you take care of, and don't betray. I agree.

[TheTurtle]

Despite the fact that this is a peak oil forum, peak oil is not really the worst of the problems facing us right now. Climate change, environmental degradation, peak clean water and a socio-economic system that is based on ever increasing consumption are the four horsemen of the Apocalypse that stare us in the face.

Peak oil is just icing on the cake of catastrophe. So to talk about alternatives to cheap oil is, IMO, meaningless as it ignores the major problems about to bite the world's collective ass.

Carry on.

[clueless]

Drifter give me a break - I am not an idealist. I have clearly said tough times are ahead no doubt. But we hve endured hardship in this country on several occasions and people banded together - SO in spite of your psychobabble "History" is not on your side. And furthermore most people in the world live in difficult conditions, so why shouldn't people here get a taste of that ???
In fact where I live the level of PO awareness and sustainablity are embraced by much of the local youth, local govt. officials and local utitlities (who even sponsored Heinberg to speak to a sold out audience at the local Hilton). Yes therea re many wackos out there (like perhaps yourself) that are going to resort to crime, but not all.
You are e perfect example of a self-fullfilling prophecy, I have no doubt you will go out during the PO depression and try to waste some people who are going to waste you...I for one refuse to live that way, and besides you will probably end up in one of Cheney's fema work camps.