[mark]

If I see another article proposing alternative energy strategies to allow us a “life as usual” future I’ll end up smashing something.

There is a reality to peak oil, corporate capitalism, fiat money, war, competition, greed and fear that escape too many people. It is not sustainable. It’s over, done with and about to bury itself. All we’re trying to do is avoid its death throes.

How many times do we have to get whacked upside the head to realize we can’t live like this. Too damn many for me.

Everything, everything you see in your so-called normal everyday life is going away; and thank god for it. Enough with the stories proclaiming that all we have to do is this or that or the other thing and happy motoring is back on the menu. It ain’t agonna happen.

There are too many damn people! The oil fiesta spurred a great big party that attracted billions of people and the party’s over. Heinberg told us that years ago.

Christ on a crutch! I’ve had it with those grasping at such a failed, vicious, moronic way of life.

Time to get on to what's next.

[Jack]

Well said, Mark.

The cornucopians have become a tedious lot. There are too many people. The demise of about 6 billion people is something I look forward to with keen anticipation.

[VinceG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'W')ell said, Mark.

[Ayame]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mark', 'T')here are too many damn people!

[VinceG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mark', 'I')f I see another article proposing alternative energy strategies to allow us a “life as usual” future I’ll end up smashing something.

[The_Setite]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'W')ell said, Mark. The cornucopians have become a tedious lot. There are too many people. The demise of about 6 billion people is something I look forward to with keen anticipation.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are too many damn people! The oil fiesta spurred a great big party that attracted billions of people and the party’s over. Heinberg told us that years ago.

[mark]

For those with limited horizons – It’s not that alternatives are pointless, hopeless, or unworthy of research and implementation; it’s that people who view alternatives as means to continue “life as usual” – these are the people who are pointless, hopeless and unworthy of life. With limited consciousness, come limited possibilities. You can see nothing but what’s in front of your face, take a breather and consider other, more meaningful, possibilities. That is the future.

My contribution to the future is to live a truth seeking life, devoted to discovering the truth and living the truth. And, I have no clear idea how things will work out, only that they will, and in the end, for the better. I do know that flogging that dead horse that is our present civilization leads directly to the black pit.

[NotMyBlood]

I find it amusing that in todays chaotic , fast paced, up and down , unpredictable environment that anybody can assume with 100% conviction that anything will happen. People like the subject matter experts, can predict alot of things. I can agree with those predictions(I'm on board with the peak being now) , but no one can say for certain whats going to happen. Especially in todays world and especially with the issues that the Peak Oil community discusses. Yes, the "challenges" (some might call them land mines) that civilization needs to overcome are seemingly overwhelming. But I don't underestimate human ingenuity/ambition/greed and scientific research.

Sometimes when you read too much of one side you become "jaded". Unable to think any other way. i always try to give both sides fair time.

[mkwin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mark', 'I')f I see another article proposing alternative energy strategies to allow us a “life as usual” future I’ll end up smashing something.
There is a reality to peak oil, corporate capitalism, fiat money, war, competition, greed and fear that escape too many people. It is not sustainable. It’s over, done with and about to bury itself. All we’re trying to do is avoid its death throes.
How many times do we have to get whacked upside the head to realize we can’t live like this. Too damn many for me.
Everything, everything you see in your so-called normal everyday life is going away; and thank god for it. Enough with the stories proclaiming that all we have to do is this or that or the other thing and happy motoring is back on the menu. It ain’t agonna happen.
There are too many damn people! The oil fiesta spurred a great big party that attracted billions of people and the party’s over. Heinberg told us that years ago.
Christ on a crutch! I’ve had it with those grasping at such a failed, vicious, moronic way of life. Time to get on to what's next.

[Niagara]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clueless', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are too many damn people! The oil fiesta spurred a great big party that attracted billions of people and the party’s over. Heinberg told us that years ago.

[frankthetank]

Like Captain Ron said in the movie of the same name...

"We're going fuckin die"...

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ctually it IS true. The 6 billion people today are a result of the Green Revolution which is fossil-fuel powered. Trading in SUV's for a bicycles won't cut it. People still have to eat and without oil/gas for pesticides, fertilizer, irrigation power, machinery, transportation, refrigeration, etc. there will be a die-off. Nature says so, and nature bats last.

[Tyler_JC]

And do you realize how little oil actually goes into agriculture? We're talking about a number in the low single digits of million barrels per day.

I have a hard time believing that in 10 years, farmers won't have enough fuel to run their tractors but hummer drivers will be able to freely roam the highways. Food prices will increase, farmers will see increased revenue, and pump that extra money into buying more fuel for their tractors.

Farm yields in the developed world will not drop to 19th century levels because of a fuel shortage. The market is too efficient for that to happen.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')rading in SUV's for a bicycles won't cut it. People still have to eat and without oil/gas for pesticides, fertilizer, irrigation power, machinery, transportation, refrigeration, etc. there will be a die-off.

[mark]

There are plenty of “solutions” out there that would mitigate peak whatever. That's not the point. I’ve been at this 3 years now and see them every day. In fact, you can go back 30, 40 years and see all kinds of solutions to problems that are still problems. Shouldn’t that tell you something? There is no shortage of solutions!

But, they have never been implemented. Even now, at this late stage, the mental gymnastics required to avert one’s eyes from the oncoming train wreck … have you tried to alert people to the coming storm? Talk about pointless!

The bigger picture will rule. We’re just small cogs doing the best we can, so, create your own solutions.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut, they have never been implemented. Even now, at this late stage, the mental gymnastics required to avert one’s eyes from the oncoming train wreck … have you tried to alert people to the coming storm? Talk about pointless!

The bigger picture will rule. We’re just small cogs doing the best we can, so, create your own solutions.

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')have you tried to alert people to the coming storm? Talk about pointless!

[dinopello]

There is a glorious future, full of excitement and challenges!

Can I get an 'amen' to that !?


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"The chief cause of problems is solutions"
-Eric Sevareid

[clueless]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'T')here is a glorious future, full of excitement and challenges!

Can I get an 'amen' to that !?


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"The chief cause of problems is solutions"
-Eric Sevareid