Peak Oil and giving birth.

by **Pretorian** » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 03:32:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', 'D')oes anyone think an analgesic like poppy tea could be useful for childbirthing? In the US it's legal to possess and use pounds of poppy seeds, perhaps that would be a good thing to have around...

Poppy Tea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_tea

by **steam_cannon** » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 16:14:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'v')ery interesting. In the region my father was from, there was a very special soup made of poppy seeds... I dont remember it changing the mood at all

by **Pretorian** » Wed 01 Aug 2007, 23:53:00

Just in case ask your wife about it . The soup is from Poltava region. Many people who live just some 50-100 miles away never heard about it, i was wondering where else was it cooked.
So basicaly you take 1/4-1/8 of a pound ( probably a bit less, but as for me the more the better), crush it ( clay dish, wooden stick-- dont know how will it react with metal, but glass/china should be fine imo). The longer you mash it the better. ( you add some water to the seeds before crushing) just a little bit to make the work easier. The stuff should turn whitish in colour.
Then there are variations of whether you want it with water, water/milk mix or milk alone. I prefer it with water, thats the original way my grandma/her relatives/neighbours did. Some people did boil/heat it, but originally you just get a few spoonfuls of that poppy in the plate, add some cold water with sugar by taste, and throw pieces of that bisquit-type cake, called " korrzh"
on top of it , mix it all together and eat. I couldnt get enough of it.

I have no idea how to make that korzh, but you can try to experiment with something else (its going to suck for sure till u find something u like). Basically it is a bit hard to bite, lightly sweet cake, yellowish in colour. The consistensy is similar to a plain "pryanik" ( your wife surely knows what that is )

by **steam_cannon** » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 20:37:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'T')he consistency is similar to a plain "pryanik" ( your wife surely knows what that is )

by **steam_cannon** » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 21:01:36

Kutia

She's had it, but doesn't like it very much. She likes the cookies more... :-D

Amusingly, my wife has heard about people giving their kids a variation of this, to calm sick children and to help them to sleep. The whole head of the plant is boiled. Boiling should release opiates and Oleamide oil. The majority of the effect would probably be from the Oleamide oil. And it would be delivered watered down with sugar.

"Re: Peak Oil and giving birth."
Well, if you have kids I guess this is a way to quiet them down. :roll:

by **steam_cannon** » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 21:29:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'J')ust in case ask your wife about it . The soup is from Poltava region. Many people who live just some 50-100 miles away never heard about it, i was wondering where else was it cooked.

by **Evltre** » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 22:27:58

My personal experience with drugs in labour was that they do far more harm than good. My first birth was a terrible one - loads of drugs were offered and taken (yes - hospital birth!) and the whole experience is a blur of fear and confusion. Nothing actually "stopped the pain" and the result was simply that they unfocused me and began a "intervention cascade" that almost resulted in a c-section due to failure to progress. On the other hand my second birth, drug free, was fantastic. A woman has amazing ability to deal with pain - particularly if supported and coached by an experienced midwife. There are loads of things that can be done to help without "medical" intervention - submersion in warm water, acupressure and massage all helped incredibly.

by **Pretorian** » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 01:27:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', 'I') think the dish you are describing is called Kutia. I'll ask my wife if she's tried it...

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