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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 04:57:42

Double post.
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 04:58:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gerontion', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', 'T')errorism is deliberately targeting civilians. The United States doesn't do that.


The US-UK sponsored Iraqi sanctions resulted in the deaths of between 300,000 and 500,000 children.

Thank God George W. Bush ended the sanctions and saved the lives of over 1 million Iraqi children from the cruelty of Saddam Hussein.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his was a medieval siege. The deaths didn't happen by accident and those in power were not unaware of them; when asked about this holocaust being visited on the Iraqis, Madeline Albright famously said, "it's a price worth paying." Nice.

Thank you Saddam Hussein. Also the Butcher of Belgrade Madeleine Albright is subhuman sewage.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')r how about the carpet bombing of South East Asia? Millions died in this. Where they military targets? Do me a favour.

I guess all those Vietcong and Khmer Rouge with Soviet Kalashnikov's were "peaceful civilians."

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd the fact that the US government largely sub-contracts its murder and rape to death squads operating at arm's length hardly absolves it from guilt.

You'll have to be more specific. If you mean Bill Clinton and the Democrat Party I think I know what you're talking about.
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby Gerontion » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 05:09:15

Am I having a conversation with some kind of neo-con wankbot which is just throwing out automated responses? Certainly looks that way.
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby TheDude » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 05:52:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('untothislast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', 'T')errorism is deliberately targeting civilians. The United States doesn't do that.


Hisoshima/Nagasaki/My Lai . . . you are serially self-delusional, suspiciously under-educated - and possibly in need of professional help.


Checking my Magic 8-Ball, and the verdict is more like:

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You need to check your facts, too. Or work on your typing.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he United States consumes 30 million barrels a day.
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby Alcassin » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 06:07:35

Yup he's neo-con and he believes in abiogenic oil :lol:

He tries the most naive persuasion I have ever seen...
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby Grifter » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 09:31:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', 'W')e never go to war for humanitarian reasons, we as humans I mean.

I guess the United States sent troops to Haiti in order to enslave their people and exploit their natural resources...:roll:


strawman :sigh:

So you believe that it was to help the people of haiti? Not to ensure that a state close to the US didn't become an unfriendly regime. I accept that the result was probably favourable to haitians, but that is still not the reason for the intervention. Otherwise the US would intervene all over the world. If Haiti was in the middle of africa, say next to Rwanda then the US would have done nothing as there would be no percieved threat to US interests.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you really think that the fact that Saddam was a nasty bastard had anything to do with the war?

Absolutely. If Saddam Hussein wasn't a "nasty bastard" he would've complied with the United Nations resolutions and war would've been avoided. He didn't compy with any of them.


Like Israel does? They were in breach of more UN sanctions than Iraq at the time of the invasion.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')oes oil have absolutely nothing to do with it?
Zero imo. Iraq can only produce 3 million barrels a day. The United States consumes 30 million barrels a day. If the United States wanted oil it would be far cheaper to invade Canada or Mexico which have far larger oil reserves.

Are you serious? I don't know what to say. The US considers ME oil as a vital interest and will use their military to defend its access.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') mean I'd forgive you for suggesting that Iraq's oil reserves were his wmd.
Not only did Saddam Hussein use Iraqi oil reserves as WMD he also used Kuwaiti oil as WMD. Perhaps you recall the worst environmental disaster in world history? Thanks again Saddam Hussein.

Yes, Saddam was a bastard I already conceded that. He was also not very bright. Invading Kuwait was a stupid thing to do above all else.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')alloway has been on the record for years as AGAINST the Iraq regime as was. That is whilst our governments were friendly with him.

He was against the war, not pro the regime. Surely you can tell the difference.
I can't tell the difference. If you're not willing to back regime change with guns you might as well not even say it. Words are meaningless when it comes to regime change.

If you can't tell the difference between being against our support for a barbaric regime and then also being against the invasion causing untold missery then I guess I will just have to accept that you have a different and unusual view of the situation.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')overnments and terrorism go back centuries. I'm not really sure what terrorism means to be honest. I mean the US and the UK have both been guilty of it. I'm sure many others too, Saddam included.
Terrorism is deliberately targeting civilians. The United States doesn't do that. Militant Muslims in Iraq do. That's why Muslims in Iraq have killed a hundred times as many Iraqi civilians as the United States military. Maybe now you can take the time to look up the definition of terrorism.

Nicaragua (US) and Lebanon (UK) killed civilians.

During shock and awe whole buildings were destryoed where people were working, to earn a living, to feed their families. Wedding parties in Afghanistan.

It was Eli who told me something about moral dualism. It is not right for us to do it to them just as much as it is not right for them to do it to us. I also doubt your assertian about insurgents/terrorists, whatever they are killing more than the occupying forces, but I'm not going to look it because war is war, doesn't matter to me who kills more, ordinary people do not win.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'h')eard of abu graib ?
Yes that's where Saddam Hussein had his rape rooms, used power drills on the genitalia of his victims, and slowly lowered people into baths of acid.

Yeah he was a bastard, we are pretty nasty bastards ourselves.

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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby untothislast » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 14:01:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '
')Checking my Magic 8-Ball, and the verdict is more like:

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You need to check your facts, too. Or work on your typing.



You must just slay them down at The Algonquin . . .
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby eXpat » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 15:31:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Gerontion', 'A')m I having a conversation with some kind of neo-con wankbot which is just throwing out automated responses? Certainly looks that way.


Yes, you are, I bet he considers Fox news to be a left-wing mouthpiece of the International Communist Conspiracy :) straight from planet Neocon, in pasticular in the continent Joe McCarthy and educated in the University Leo Strauss...
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 15:38:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('untothislast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', 'T')errorism is deliberately targeting civilians. The United States doesn't do that.


Hisoshima/Nagasaki/My Lai . . . you are serially self-delusional, suspiciously under-educated - and possibly in need of professional help.


Checking my Magic 8-Ball, and the verdict is more like:

Image

You need to check your facts, too. Or work on your typing.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he United States consumes 30 million barrels a day.

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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 15:51:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', 'W')e never go to war for humanitarian reasons, we as humans I mean.

I guess the United States sent troops to Haiti in order to enslave their people and exploit their natural resources...:roll:


strawman :sigh:

So you believe that it was to help the people of haiti? Not to ensure that a state close to the US didn't become an unfriendly regime. I accept that the result was probably favourable to haitians, but that is still not the reason for the intervention. Otherwise the US would intervene all over the world. If Haiti was in the middle of africa, say next to Rwanda then the US would have done nothing as there would be no percieved threat to US interests.

I guess the United States sent troops to Liberia and Somalia in order to enslave their people and exploit their natural resources...:roll:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')ike Israel does? They were in breach of more UN sanctions than Iraq at the time of the invasion.

That's because the United Nations has been taken over by antisemitic Nazis. In case you haven't noticed, the world is evil.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'b')eing against the invasion causing untold missery then I guess I will just have to accept that you have a different and unusual view of the situation.
The war in Iraq ended the economic sanctions thereby ending the misery caused by Saddam Hussein. The misery today in Iraq is caused by Muslim terrorists.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')icaragua (US) and Lebanon (UK) killed civilians.
Oh I see. So anything Nicaragua does that's bad it's the US's fault...lol:
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby Grifter » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 17:12:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', '
')Nicaragua (US) and Lebanon (UK) killed civilians.

Oh I see. So anything Nicaragua does that's bad it's the US's fault...lol:


I was going to respond to all of your post, but I don't know how to respond to this???

What do you mean?

I don't like terms like troll, or neocon but man, what is it you're not getting?

Do you think that your government loves you and all the other citizens and always looks out for your best interests?

I can use strawman stuff too, but I fear you may really think like this.
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby CarnbY » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 19:00:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', 'L')ike Israel does? They were in breach of more UN sanctions than Iraq at the time of the invasion.

That's because the United Nations has been taken over by antisemitic Nazis. In case you haven't noticed, the world is evil.
Oh yeah, and Israelis aren't evil at all
I don't know what your motivation is for posting your drivel OilIsMastery, but I hope you'll come to your senses soon. Right now you seem more like a troll than anything else
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 19:12:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', '
')Nicaragua (US) and Lebanon (UK) killed civilians.

Oh I see. So anything Nicaragua does that's bad it's the US's fault...lol:


I was going to respond to all of your post, but I don't know how to respond to this???

What do you mean?

I don't like terms like troll, or neocon but man, what is it you're not getting?

The reason why you are wondering which ad hominem to use is because you don't know how to debate the issues. The truth is shocking I guess.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you think that your government loves you and all the other citizens and always looks out for your best interests?

What does that have to do with what I posted? It's obvious to me that the Democrats that control the United States government are my enemies which is why I support Republican tax cuts and Republican spending cuts.
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 19:16:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CarnbY', 'O')h yeah, and Israelis aren't evil at all

Spare me your terrorist propaganda.

But as far as Israelis being evil: "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one." (Romans 3:10)
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby TheDude » Thu 02 Aug 2007, 23:53:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '
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You need to check your facts, too. Or work on your typing.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he United States consumes 30 million barrels a day.

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2006 figures for oil use worldwide. US uses 20.588 million barrels/day.

Moron. I also see that Moron is a mountain and a village in the Jura mountains of Switzerland, justifying the time I spent looking that up. Perhaps they're a bit dim in Moron, eh?
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby OilIsMastery » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 01:07:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '[')url=http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables3_4_files/sheet001.html]2006 figures for oil use worldwide.[/url] US uses 20.588 million barrels/day.

Moron. I also see that Moron is a mountain and a village in the Jura mountains of Switzerland, justifying the time I spent looking that up. Perhaps they're a bit dim in Moron, eh?

You are looking in the rear view mirror moron. What about 2007 and 2008 numbers? Also I see that Iraq is only 15 on the list of world's oil producers. You'd think, if the moron thesis is correct, that the United States would at least invade a country that can produce oil.
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby TheDude » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 04:45:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilIsMastery', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '[')url=http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables3_4_files/sheet001.html]2006 figures for oil use worldwide.[/url] US uses 20.588 million barrels/day.

Moron. I also see that Moron is a mountain and a village in the Jura mountains of Switzerland, justifying the time I spent looking that up. Perhaps they're a bit dim in Moron, eh?

You are looking in the rear view mirror moron. What about 2007 and 2008 numbers? Also I see that Iraq is only 15 on the list of world's oil producers. You'd think, if the moron thesis is correct, that the United States would at least invade a country that can produce oil.


You're right, I should check to see what total US consumption for 2007 will be before I insult your intelligence. It is definitely possible that US motorists will consume an additional 10 million barrels this year, after all...

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Increasing Iraq's oil production was definitely high on the list of your beloved neocons' priorities, which like all their other plans has gone swimmingly.

I'd swear you're nothing but another incarnation of Aaron messing with our heads, but your blog looks all too real to be BS. I'd put you on Ignore but you utter the most fantastic things every time out, saying that bridge collapsed due to God's wrath for instance. Keep 'em coming. Maybe you're really Jerome Corsi?
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby untothislast » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 05:00:58

Peak oil is here. The inevitable consequences are beginning to unfurl before our eyes. I suggest we'd be making better use of of our time
using the internet to learn/exchange information and skills for possible survival, rather than being seduced (fun though it is) into pointless 'shooting fish in a barrel' arguments, with people whose synapses aren't joined together.

Re: George Galloway: Correct message - but from a very fatuous man, whose addiction to promoting his own personal profile actually dilutes its importance.
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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby Grifter » Fri 03 Aug 2007, 05:37:20

^^ yeah you're right ^^

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Re: George Galloway on Peak Oil [The Real Deal]

Unread postby dorlomin » Tue 07 Aug 2007, 19:02:10

George Galloway say's FU to Saddam in his own special way.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssdbfYqG ... ed&search=


He is hated by the left and much of the UKs anti war movement for being such a media whore. The anti war movements most articulate and capable spokespersons included former foreign secetary Robin Cook, one of the great intellectual parlimentarians of his era, Tony Benn very well educated and erudite spokesman former senior cabinet minister, Charles Kennedy the most personaly popular politician of the time and many other people of impecable human rights records. Instead GG jump up and down to get as much media coverage for himself and the prowar press obliged making him spokesman for the anti war movement to help make it look ludicrous. He obliged in spades.

He is also strongly strongly linked to bringing communal politics into the UK with his Respect vanity vehicle. For a man who was an avowed anti Troskiest in the 80s he has jumped into bed with the Trotskiest opnely entryest Socialist Workers Party and the blatantly Islamist MAB (strongly linked to the Muslim Bortherhood).
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