[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he US does alot good for the Global community that's not discussed or appreciated. It's easy to blame the US for all the worlds problems. Since we won WWII and the Cold War, were perceived, and rightly so, as the Worlds only Super Power. An Empire; But, it was never the US's intention to 'rule the world'. Globisation, Capitalism, American Culture, American Ideals, and Geopolitical circumstances have propelled it into an Empire.

[OilIsMastery]

[TheDude]

Indeed Bush isn't entirely like Hitler. He has elements of Caligula and Louis XVI as well.

The Hitler analogy mostly stems from the brazen grab for power - which he isn't done fulfilling, either - rather than the Final Solution most people associate Adolph with.

Cheney will be president tomorrow, BTW. No, I mean, officially Acting President, while Dubya has his colonoscopy.

[Concerned]

Not only no but Hell no. LOL

Before US invasion of Iraq no AQ, now AQ in Iraq and getting lots of recruits and experience.

The US and UK should be paying the rest of the world for all the terrorists they are freaking creating.

The US and UK should pay reparations to at least re-build 75-85% Iraq infrastructure they have destroyed, with their own money not Iraq oil money.

Get REAL and get the hell out of the country. Let them trade oil with with everyone except US and UK should they choose to do so.

The supreme arrogance to even contemplate asking for others to pay for your criminal actions is simply galling.

Be-gone fool.

[Alcassin]

NotMyBlood you are joking, aren't you?

1. Your country created, and sponsored AQ with Osama bin Laden, he was American agent. Fight with this insubordination alone, you created monster, so you have it.
2. Your country brought Opium back to Afghanistan to a pre-taliban level making its supplky 1st on the Earth. Congratiulations, hope, democracy and heroine.
3. Your country attacked Iraq in march 2003, like USSR invaded Poland on 17th September 1939 - without declaring war. Your country act like USSR on eastern grab of Poland.
4. It is not "few people" - for the WWII was responsible also "few people". War is hobby of elites, but your nation let to steal elections of 2000 and go for endless war. Don't use nuremberg excuse, that you only "followed the orders".
5. You are losing, because you are governed by a bunch of cleptocrats and plutocrats, sorry, your sovereign country, your decision.
6. If you want to let other countries pay, so let the rest of the world elect another president of the United States of America. Got the point? Politics are not charitable, grow up.

Every ministry of foreign affairs in the world should as cynical for you as Henry Kissinger was to them. War was based on lies, it is lost, and now it is the time to pay the bill, and the rest of a party laughs at you when you try to borrow again. My country serves in Afghanistan and in Iraq - and I won't beg others to pay for me, that's chilidish and makes me sick.

[ClassicSpiderman]

I just want to make myself perfectly clear: I don't support US foreign policy in regards to the Middle East. In fact, I think US foreign policy since the Vietnam war is misguided and immoral.

The title of this thread is a facetious remark--sort of directed at those who like to say that the Iraq war was war to defend the "American way of life". If that's the case, then other countries that import huge amounts of oil are also getting dividends from this war without paying for it like the Americans do.

The hypocritical social democrats of the Left (the peace party as in this case of the Iraq war) cheered on Bill Clinton's bombing of Yugoslavia, calling Slobodan Milosevic a murderer of hundreds of thousands of people, all lies of course. Funny that Milosevic defended himself rather well at the Hague and then conveniently 'died' before a verdict given against him.

The 'right' provides political support for the current war, because George Bush happens to be a Republican. The patriotic country bumpkins provide good cannon fodder for American imperialistic wars. George Orwell's "romantic man" comes to mind whenever a country needs to galvanize a country in a time of war. Roosevelt took advantage of US citizens xenophobia towards the japanese (after Pearl Harbor) to get the country sucked into WW2. When Stalin was getting his arse kicked by Germany, he abandoned all socialist pretense of 'internationalism' and framed the war as a 'Great patriotic war for the Russian fatherland'. Franco kicked the socialists' asses even though his armies were outnumbered by 3-1 because his side were devout Spanish nationalists--the opposition was a bunch of effete metrosexuals debating whether the concept of military rank was another bourgeois construct that should be abolished.

American nationalism is a powerful force that continues to drive this war (the hardcore 25% that support Bush). Why are they so devoutly behind this cause? The image of the turban-wearing swarthy Islamic shouting "Death to America!" is quite effective propaganda. Funny how the media masters brainwash everyone to feel guilty for being white and to respect and bow at the feet of multiculturalism, but they will allow these 'patriots' their 2 minutes of hate against Islamics (who happen to also be the enemies of Israel).

My advice to the American "patriots" is that their support of the war just continues to perpetuate a decadent, corrupt society. Ignore the useful idiots of the left who only hate the Iraq war because that paradigm conforms to their ideal of Third World solidarity or whatnot. These hypocrites would be hardcore supporters of this war if it was a (D) President. Bush is an internationalist-socialist who speaks "conservative" language.

"They" hate you for your freedoms? What freedoms? To watch Internet pr0n? To permit loose women to show off their ankles in public? To bring Brokeback Mountain to those uncouth, homophobic Arabs? They hate you because of America's meddling and one-sided foreign policy towards Israel.

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IrrationalExuberanceMonky', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'A')merica should pay for it's own mistakes, sure enough, lost of europeans put a lot of money into that war, including my own country (which is in afghanistan in force) but IMO America should pay for it's own lies. O and btw, Europe is taking in more then 60 times the iraqi refugees america is taking in, let alon iran, syria, SA and Jordan who are taking in a 1000 times more Iraqi refugees than the US. You want truth? there you have it.

PS the title of this thread just makes me sick to my stomach.

[Mircea]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'T')hat's BS

Europe put and puts alot of money into Afghanistan; there are more European soldiers there than there are from the US. Surely Europe, and especially HOLLAND contribute more there then America

[Bas]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mircea', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'T')hat's BS

Europe put and puts alot of money into Afghanistan; there are more European soldiers there than there are from the US. Surely Europe, and especially HOLLAND contribute more there then America

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', ' ')O and btw, Europe is taking in more then 60 times the iraqi refugees america is taking in, let alon iran, syria, SA and Jordan who are taking in a 1000 times more Iraqi refugees than the US. You want truth? there you have it.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', ' ') One recent reporter there found out that Al quida had COOKED a child .

[skeptik]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', ' ') But, when people(leftie europeans,some canadians, south americans, mexicans, muslims, etc, etc) compares bush to hitler, America to the Nazis its incredibly insulting.

[eXpat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClassicSpiderman', 'I') just want to make myself perfectly clear: I don't support US foreign policy in regards to the Middle East. In fact, I think US foreign policy since the Vietnam war is misguided and immoral.

The title of this thread is a facetious remark--sort of directed at those who like to say that the Iraq war was war to defend the "American way of life". If that's the case, then other countries that import huge amounts of oil are also getting dividends from this war without paying for it like the Americans do.

The hypocritical social democrats of the Left (the peace party as in this case of the Iraq war) cheered on Bill Clinton's bombing of Yugoslavia, calling Slobodan Milosevic a murderer of hundreds of thousands of people, all lies of course. Funny that Milosevic defended himself rather well at the Hague and then conveniently 'died' before a verdict given against him.

The 'right' provides political support for the current war, because George Bush happens to be a Republican. The patriotic country bumpkins provide good cannon fodder for American imperialistic wars. George Orwell's "romantic man" comes to mind whenever a country needs to galvanize a country in a time of war. Roosevelt took advantage of US citizens xenophobia towards the japanese (after Pearl Harbor) to get the country sucked into WW2. When Stalin was getting his arse kicked by Germany, he abandoned all socialist pretense of 'internationalism' and framed the war as a 'Great patriotic war for the Russian fatherland'. Franco kicked the socialists' asses even though his armies were outnumbered by 3-1 because his side were devout Spanish nationalists--the opposition was a bunch of effete metrosexuals debating whether the concept of military rank was another bourgeois construct that should be abolished.

American nationalism is a powerful force that continues to drive this war (the hardcore 25% that support Bush). Why are they so devoutly behind this cause? The image of the turban-wearing swarthy Islamic shouting "Death to America!" is quite effective propaganda. Funny how the media masters brainwash everyone to feel guilty for being white and to respect and bow at the feet of multiculturalism, but they will allow these 'patriots' their 2 minutes of hate against Islamics (who happen to also be the enemies of Israel).

My advice to the American "patriots" is that their support of the war just continues to perpetuate a decadent, corrupt society. Ignore the useful idiots of the left who only hate the Iraq war because that paradigm conforms to their ideal of Third World solidarity or whatnot. These hypocrites would be hardcore supporters of this war if it was a (D) President. Bush is an internationalist-socialist who speaks "conservative" language.

"They" hate you for your freedoms? What freedoms? To watch Internet pr0n? To permit loose women to show off their ankles in public? To bring Brokeback Mountain to those uncouth, homophobic Arabs? They hate you because of America's meddling and one-sided foreign policy towards Israel.

[Ferretlover]

I feel quite certain that having the rest of the world pay for this initial foray into world domination by the US would be most welcome for TPTB..

Just found this this am--comments, please?
PROJECT FOR THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY found at: http://www.newamericancentury.org/Rebui ... fenses.pdf

Wonder if there is an updated version lurking somewhere....

[Mircea]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mircea', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'T')hat's BS

Europe put and puts alot of money into Afghanistan; there are more European soldiers there than there are from the US. Surely Europe, and especially HOLLAND contribute more there then America

[Mircea]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skeptik', 'A')merica to the Nazis? wrong comparison. I would suggest that the Neo-con clicque in the Republican party currently running the show does bare that comparison.

[IrrationalExuberanceMonky]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IrrationalExuberanceMonky', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'A')merica should pay for it's own mistakes, sure enough, lost of europeans put a lot of money into that war, including my own country (which is in afghanistan in force) but IMO America should pay for it's own lies. O and btw, Europe is taking in more then 60 times the iraqi refugees america is taking in, let alon iran, syria, SA and Jordan who are taking in a 1000 times more Iraqi refugees than the US. You want truth? there you have it.

PS the title of this thread just makes me sick to my stomach.

[NotMyBlood]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ClassicSpiderman', '
')
"They" hate you for your freedoms? What freedoms? To watch Internet pr0n? To permit loose women to show off their ankles in public? To bring Brokeback Mountain to those uncouth, homophobic Arabs? They hate you because of America's meddling and one-sided foreign policy towards Israel.

[cube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', '.').I'm sure everyone recognizes the importance of ME Oil to the US in particluar. However, 70% of Americans want out of Iraq. And I think thats exactly whats going to happen, sometime in 2008/9...

[NotMyBlood]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', '.').I'm sure everyone recognizes the importance of ME Oil to the US in particluar. However, 70% of Americans want out of Iraq. And I think thats exactly whats going to happen, sometime in 2008/9...