[NotMyBlood]

The US does alot good for the Global community that's not discussed or appreciated. It's easy to blame the US for all the worlds problems. Since we won WWII and the Cold War, were perceived, and rightly so, as the Worlds only Super Power. An Empire; But, it was never the US's intention to 'rule the world'. Globisation, Capitalism, American Culture, American Ideals, and Geopolitical circumstances have propelled it into an Empire.

Yes, it does and will continue to make mistakes. But, when people(leftie europeans,some canadians, south americans, mexicans, muslims, etc, etc) compares bush to hitler, America to the Nazis its incredibly insulting. Some, have a family tree that's filled with dead US soldiers. Mostly WWII. Uncles, Great Grandfathers, cousins. The American system isnt perfect, but please , if you start comparing it to nazis, hitler and claim Iran has a higher moral standard, then don't be surprised if an American bites back. There is great politcal turbulence in America right now, the populace could very well push to withdraw from forgeign affairs. Problems in Africa with disease and genocide?, F-you! Need more money to clean up the tsnuami disaster? F-you. Radical muslims are in the process of burning Paris, Berlin and Stockholm to the ground? F you!!!!


okay, not really; but that sentiment is starting to grow here in the states. The rest of the World hates us, lets just isolate ourselves......Not so much from the Political leaders or Wall Street Willys. Its coming from the middle class. A population increasingly under attack.......

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', 'T')he US does alot good for the Global community that's not discussed or appreciated. It's easy to blame the US for all the worlds problems. Since we won WWII and the Cold War, were perceived, and rightly so, as the Worlds only Super Power. An Empire; But, it was never the US's intention to 'rule the world'. Globisation, Capitalism, American Culture, American Ideals, and Geopolitical circumstances have propelled it into an Empire.

Yes, it does and will continue to make mistakes. But, when people(leftie europeans,some canadians, south americans, mexicans, muslims, etc, etc) compares bush to hitler, America to the Nazis its incredibly insulting. Some, have a family tree that's filled with dead US soldiers. Mostly WWII. Uncles, Great Grandfathers, cousins. The American system isnt perfect, but please , if you start comparing it to nazis, hitler and claim Iran has a higher moral standard, then don't be surprised if an American bites back. There is great politcal turbulence in America right now, the populace could very well push to withdraw from forgeign affairs. Problems in Africa with disease and genocide?, F-you! Need more money to clean up the tsnuami disaster? F-you. Radical muslims are in the process of burning Paris, Berlin and Stockholm to the ground? F you!!!!


okay, not really; but that sentiment is starting to grow here in the states. The rest of the World hates us, lets just isolate ourselves......Not so much from the Political leaders or Wall Street Willys. Its coming from the middle class. A population increasingly under attack.......

[NotMyBlood]

Plants, I undersatnd what your saying, and I agree......

I would like to add though,

The US has not even begun to experience real containment and ostracism by the rest of the world, but at the rate things are going, it sure will.


Who does this hurt?

[eXpat]

Should the rest of the world help pay for this?

or this:

ot this:

or this:

no thanks.

[NotMyBlood]

And thats what I'm talking about. I guess America and Americans really are animals........nazis......


take a few bad incidents, a few doctored photos, some cruel, stupid mistakes by dumb, lost, ignorant "individuals" and compare the American Government to Hitlers Germany......

yeah, i guess my tax dollars are responsible for the pictures above................................

[ClassicSpiderman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', '[')i]Yes, it does and will continue to make mistakes. But, when people(leftie europeans,some canadians, south americans, mexicans, muslims, etc, etc) compares bush to hitler, America to the Nazis its incredibly insulting. Some, have a family tree that's filled with dead US soldiers. Mostly WWII. Uncles, Great Grandfathers, cousins. The American system isnt perfect, but please , if you start comparing it to nazis, hitler and claim Iran has a higher moral standard, then don't be surprised if an American bites back. There is great politcal turbulence in America right now, the populace could very well push to withdraw from forgeign affairs. Problems in Africa with disease and genocide?, F-you! Need more money to clean up the tsnuami disaster? F-you. Radical muslims are in the process of burning Paris, Berlin and Stockholm to the ground? F you!!!!

[Bas]

America should pay for it's own mistakes, sure enough, lost of europeans put a lot of money into that war, including my own country (which is in afghanistan in force) but IMO America should pay for it's own lies. O and btw, Europe is taking in more then 60 times the iraqi refugees america is taking in, let alon iran, syria, SA and Jordan who are taking in a 1000 times more Iraqi refugees than the US. You want truth? there you have it.

PS the title of this thread just makes me sick to my stomach.

[NotMyBlood]

I agree 100% spiderman. And I FEAR, when things(if things) get so bad for the majority(middle class) in the United States, there will be more pressure from the populace on the government to NOT "Tax me" for immigration problems from Northern Africa to Italy. We have our own f-ing problems...sorry, but you'll have to figure it out......


But, Ive got to realize that America truly is an Empire. People like Expat will find something to prove how evil it is. And I'm the first to critize current "System". I'm not exactly pro-government. In fact I would like to see less of it. Its become a behemoth.

But posting pictures like expat did and comparing bushco to the nazis is making it worse Your insulting the wrong people.

Its going to be an interesting 20 years. When I think about this stuff , I awlasy try to break it down its simple terms. There are far too many variables and Global Politics is far to complex....

America has built the most powerful Military Force/Machine the Human race has ever witnessed.(top 5 at least). Does the rest of the world really think its going to allow the Dollar to collapse or its citizens suffer without taking everything, everybody, everywhere down with it? - trust me , there arent too many people who want that - maybe suicidal crazy Radical Islam: -

You have to work with America; not against it. Yes, American consumption is a problem among others.....but please, comparing America to an organization that systematically murdered millions of people .....ISNT HELPING!!!!!!!!!!!!


But I dont think he's trying to help, he just wants battle the "evil empire" and pretend he's luke skywalker.....

[kanman]

The US consumes a disproportionate amount of oil. Only fair it should get a disproportionate amount of the bill.

[eXpat]

NotMyBlood wrote
1)take a few bad incidents
Yes, just about 650.000 give it ot take it some, but who is counting? no the US army, they don't do body counts.link

2) a few doctored photos,
True again, its just me and my trusty photoshot faking pictures from 2003. I confess guilty of charge.

3)some cruel, stupid mistakes by dumb, lost, ignorant "individuals"
That have legally reach the age of majority, are trained, payed as professional soldiers (no draft as far as I know in the US) and send to war with the most expensive hardware money can buy.

4) and compare the American Government to Hitlers Germany......
??? who's comparing? I just say I would not like to pay for other's war crimes. However since the Iraq invasion is payed by the US government link and the dollar is the fiat currency of the world link, I suppose all the world is indirectly paying for this, so I have some right to complain. You do know how the petrodollar system works, do you?

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', 'T')he US does alot good for the Global community that's not discussed or appreciated. It's easy to blame the US for all the worlds problems. Since we won WWII and the Cold War, were perceived, and rightly so, as the Worlds only Super Power. An Empire; But, it was never the US's intention to 'rule the world'. Globisation, Capitalism, American Culture, American Ideals, and Geopolitical circumstances have propelled it into an Empire.

Yes, it does and will continue to make mistakes. But, when people(leftie europeans,some canadians, south americans, mexicans, muslims, etc, etc) compares bush to hitler, America to the Nazis its incredibly insulting. Some, have a family tree that's filled with dead US soldiers. Mostly WWII. Uncles, Great Grandfathers, cousins. The American system isnt perfect, but please , if you start comparing it to nazis, hitler and claim Iran has a higher moral standard, then don't be surprised if an American bites back. There is great politcal turbulence in America right now, the populace could very well push to withdraw from forgeign affairs. Problems in Africa with disease and genocide?, F-you! Need more money to clean up the tsnuami disaster? F-you. Radical muslims are in the process of burning Paris, Berlin and Stockholm to the ground? F you!!!!


okay, not really; but that sentiment is starting to grow here in the states. The rest of the World hates us, lets just isolate ourselves......Not so much from the Political leaders or Wall Street Willys. Its coming from the middle class. A population increasingly under attack.......

[NotMyBlood]

4) and compare the American Government to Hitlers Germany......
??? who's comparing? I just say I would not like to pay fot other's war crimes. However since the Iraq invasion is payed by the US government link and the dollar is the fiat currency of the world link, I suppose all the world is indirectly paying for this, so I have some right to complain. You do know how the petrodollar system works, do you?

- People of your ilk eventually do get to hitler and the swastika on the american flag...(sorry to all germans, I bet germans are like, mother fucker, everyday I got hear this shit about hitler- cruise is making a movie about that actually).

Ofcourse you have the right to complain(US+Russia did sacrifice many lifes for you to be able to do that) - I never said you didnt; but can you at least show some rational thought and not support people who put swastikas on the American Flag? And realize that the entire American System wasnt responsible for abu grhail and those pictures you posted, etc etc....Just a few individuals?????



You complaint is being heard loud and clear. Your going to get your wish. You will no longer be paying for that War once the Dems win the 2008 election..............And, after this experience, what is going to have to happen to get Americans involved in any kind of military conflict overseas.......I hope your country has the measn to defend itself...........

[Albertabound]

Every Country that imports oil pays the US directly. Oil is sold in US Dollars, that means that for every dollar bought by the world community the US government get a small percentage. The US is well paid for is military to protect oil.

[eXpat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NotMyBlood', '[')i]4) and compare the American Government to Hitlers Germany......
??? who's comparing? I just say I would not like to pay fot other's war crimes. However since the Iraq invasion is payed by the US government link and the dollar is the fiat currency of the world link, I suppose all the world is indirectly paying for this, so I have some right to complain. You do know how the petrodollar system works, do you?

- People of your ilk eventually do get to hitler and the swastika on the american flag...(sorry to all germans, I bet germans are like, mother fucker, everyday I got hear this shit about hitler- cruise is making a movie about that actually).

Ofcourse you have the right to complain(US+Russia did sacrifice many lifes for you to be able to do that) - I never said you didnt; but can you at least show some rational thought and not support people who put swastikas on the American Flag? And realize that the entire American System wasnt responsible for abu grhail and those pictures you posted, etc etc....Just a few individuals?????



You complaint is being heard loud and clear. Your going to get your wish. You will no longer be paying for that War once the Dems win the 2008 election..............And, after this experience, what is going to have to happen to get Americans involved in any kind of military conflict overseas.......I hope your country has the measn to defend itself...........

[NotMyBlood]

point taken alberta.

It truly is a globized world. And the dollar is its currency.............


expat, i know, i can't spell, actually I can't type.....

And I dont have much time right now to fuss with it all.


- I'm not really trying to prove anybody wrong......I just like to debate. It does get under my skin when people tag bush as hitler, America as Nazi Germany or Imperilaist Japan.....America has its problems, but to compare it too such organizations is ignorant.

[Fishman]

Not My Blood
We'll pull back all right. When Russia is butt raping Europe, Expat will be squilling in Edinbur. He shows pictures that pale in comparison to what Al quida is actually doing and bragging about in Iraq. One recent reporter there found out that Al quida had COOKED a child then served him back to the family. We put underwear on a prisoners head (and punish the offender), the enemy cuts off heads, and we are the bad guys.

[Curlew]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mircea', 'T')hird, the US military presence in the Middle East is not intended to protect oil, it's there to gain access to Central Asia. This might come as a suprise to you, but Central Asia is land-locked. Access is limited. You can't exactly load oil and natural gas on to planes and fly it out of Central Asia. The US has to gain control of the countries that border the Central Asian states, so that it can run pipelines through them.

[IrrationalExuberanceMonky]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'A')merica should pay for it's own mistakes, sure enough, lost of europeans put a lot of money into that war, including my own country (which is in afghanistan in force) but IMO America should pay for it's own lies. O and btw, Europe is taking in more then 60 times the iraqi refugees america is taking in, let alon iran, syria, SA and Jordan who are taking in a 1000 times more Iraqi refugees than the US. You want truth? there you have it.

PS the title of this thread just makes me sick to my stomach.

[Poordogabone]

I had to do a double take when I read the title of this thread.
I think at this point 99% of the global community would think instead:
"why should the rest of the world have to pay for the Iraq war?"
Secondly it's not by chance that there hasn't been a time since nazi Germany that so many people around the world hates one man who for a lack of a penis is totally messing up a decent future for all of us.

[billp]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ince we won WWII and the Cold War, were perceived, and rightly so, as the Worlds only Super Power.