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Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby mmasters » Fri 13 Jul 2007, 12:56:12

Worth a watch for sure

[flash width=400 height=326]http://www.youtube.com/v/AaoX_SgNO70[/flash]
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Re: Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby TheDude » Fri 13 Jul 2007, 14:16:03

Er, so my generation (X) has been infused with Marxist/Leninist propaganda, telling us we're entitled to endless bounty and never mind where it comes from? Sorry but that sounds pretty much like the line coming out of Madison Ave since time immemorial. I can't remember the speaker under my pillow saying anything about seizing the means of production, which is what I think of as "Marxist." Maybe I need to be re-educated. The materialist meme really took hold in the 50s, is this guy suggesting that we should have listened to Joe McCarthy and HUD?
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Re: Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby mmasters » Fri 13 Jul 2007, 14:40:23

I found the general method he explained for how countries are compromised (especially in the mid-to-latter stages) quite on target for where this country is currently at.
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Re: Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby Concerned » Fri 13 Jul 2007, 19:02:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'I') found the general method he explained for how countries are compromised (especially in the mid-to-latter stages) quite on target for where this country is currently at.


Just sounds like right wing propaganda.

1. Lefties controlling the universities and schools "infecting" the youth with Marxist propaganda
2. Lefties coming to put in big government.
3. Adulation of the "free market"
4. If you are a Leftie when they come to power you will be shot i.e. no net gain just keep voting right wing.
5. Fear factor it's happend NOW

This must have been pure gold for the Republicans during that time.

It also appears very staged, the Russian speaker never gets challenged or interrupted. His body language also looks uncomfortable and unconvincing.
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Re: Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby keehah » Fri 13 Jul 2007, 19:35:45

Transcript: http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwas ... zmenov.htm
"BS cause it does not fit with Gen X'ers reality"
-well it was a 1984 interview

"Righty! says lefty!"
-good luck with any Neo'Con' NWO just the new verson of Marxists explainations

Easier to get through the disinformation and denial sticking to geoscience and personal preps. Politics and social controls take time to understand and much time to form a knowledgeable base from which to evaluate propoganda and politics. Its messy (in open on-line forums) learning curve that I visit other sites for.
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Re: Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby steam_cannon » Sat 14 Jul 2007, 02:23:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', 'T')his must have been pure gold for the Republicans during that time.

It also appears very staged, the Russian speaker never gets challenged or interrupted. His body language also looks uncomfortable and unconvincing.
I think it's a good video but I also agree with Concerned, it's very staged and probably was produced a fodder for Republicans at the time. I think American society has degraded quite well without any help from Russia through our own hubris, toxic culture, infotainment news outlets...
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Re: Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby Mircea » Sat 14 Jul 2007, 04:36:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mmasters', 'I') found the general method he explained for how countries are compromised (especially in the mid-to-latter stages) quite on target for where this country is currently at.


Just sounds like right wing propaganda.

1. Lefties controlling the universities and schools "infecting" the youth with Marxist propaganda


Right on target. I should know since I'm there. The leftists/globalist dogma is horrendous.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2'). Lefties coming to put in big government.


No longer an issue since Democrat=Republican=Democrat=Republican.

The real differentiation between Democrats and Republicans is are they neo-liberal globalists, neo-conservatives, or one of the minority groups like classical conservatives/liberals, or radicals/constructivsts.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '3'). Adulation of the "free market"


Here you have to distinguish between free markets and open markets. Capitalists like open markets but hate free markets.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '4'). If you are a Leftie when they come to power you will be shot i.e. no net gain just keep voting right wing.


Typically, yes, that's true. A leftist would have no qualms at all about sending you to particiapte in a demonstration, then sending others to kill you and blame it on the government (the right wing). You just have to look at the tactics used in Eastern Europe and eslewhere.

Also historically, once the principals gain power, those who diverge in beliefs are executed or exiled.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t also appears very staged, the Russian speaker never gets challenged or interrupted. His body language also looks uncomfortable and unconvincing.


Most certainly.
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Re: Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby oswald622 » Sat 14 Jul 2007, 04:57:21

not only does it look staged, it sounds staged. the guy sounds like an american putting on a russian accent.
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Re: Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby dooberheim » Sat 14 Jul 2007, 05:04:45

This is essentially what J. Edgar Hoover was saying in his book "Masters of Deceit". I've heard this before from other places, also that many of the leaders of the '60s were unwitting Soviet dupes.

Possible, but irrelevant today. The crisis never happened. Energy depletion will destabilize our society just fine without any outside influence.

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Re: Soviet Defector explains how US has been Comprimised

Unread postby mmasters » Sat 14 Jul 2007, 13:53:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('steam_cannon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Concerned', 'T')his must have been pure gold for the Republicans during that time.

It also appears very staged, the Russian speaker never gets challenged or interrupted. His body language also looks uncomfortable and unconvincing.
I think it's a good video but I also agree with Concerned, it's very staged and probably was produced a fodder for Republicans at the time. I think American society has degraded quite well without any help from Russia through our own hubris, toxic culture, infotainment news outlets...

Oh, I don't think Russia is responsible for the US state of affairs. Most all intelligence agencies do the same kind of thing, I think he describes basically what our intelligence agencies are doing to us. "Countries" ultimately running things is a very two-dimensional view.
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